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Losing interest with my Sniper - Combattente - 2009-03-16 Err.. yeah. As title says, I'm so demotivated to keep playing my Sniper.. Bowmasters absolutely own us, with their fast Hurricane, and can KS us whenever they want, like Bishops (well, a Bishop owns even a Bowmaster, but w/e). Yeah, it's probably not fun to play Maple just with pressing a button (Hurricane), but people say that Marksmen are so boring.. maybe they're right. ![]() At the same time, I don't want the work of almost 2 years gone. I've done all quests do-able at my level (except killing HornTail, and things like that), and it wasn't no easy work at all. Not all quests were so easy. And since I'm a crazy quester I'd need to do them all again on another character, and I don't really feel like to. I've got decent equips, but no "pro scrolled zhelm" or "incredible 12 dex earrings" or "uber godly crossbow 120+" or "12++ gawdly stormcasters", etc., so that's another thing that demotivates me. I'm also poor. I only have 40m. Well, they're a good amount of mesos, but I'd like to have more so that I can buy some better equips (9 atk work glove FTW). And yeah, sadly, I'm starting to think that Marksmen REALLY are boring. No level 200 Marksmen in all GMS and most high-leveled ones quitted (170+). Yeah, nobody can stand training a Marksman because it's too boring. ![]() We're not wanted at bosses. Yeah, we have SE, and then? We don't have any fast attack like Bowmasters, they outdamage us sometimes (because of their speed) and if there are enough SEers in the run, we're not needed at all, for anything. Maxed Snipe's cooldown reduced to 5 seconds? Snipe's damage cap removed and 199k damage every time? I think that won't help. Bowmasters will still be better, because they can pin any boss with their Hurricane, we can't. We will be using strafe forever, even at 4th job. And also, our strafe is slower than Bowmasters' one, so we are very slow and can't pin any boss like Bowmasters. Another reason because Marksmen suck. We do more damage? Well, that doesn't help. Bowmasters almost do our same damage, expecially with strafe, and our damage is just A BIT higher. So yeah. New contest. The first one to give me a good reason to keep playing my Sniper gets a cookie. Losing interest with my Sniper - Mark - 2009-03-16 Coming from a guy with a 144 Marksman: It's not easy. I was like 133 before 4th job and all I can say is if you're not having fun training your class, weak or not it's probably not for you. Losing interest with my Sniper - Combattente - 2009-03-16 I'm not saying I don't enjoy it, but I'm just demotivated. It's kinda sad to see people say that your job sucks balls. Losing interest with my Sniper - Alloy - 2009-03-16 Wait until they release monster book... THEN you'll have a 10x level guy ready to hunt most of the stuff! And I'll even try to help from time to time if I find a 6th card :p ... Wait, Monster Book isn't the answer to anything? DAMMIT. Losing interest with my Sniper - Dyxanije - 2009-03-16 Here is my piss poor attempt at trying to get a cookie. Combattente Wrote:Err.. yeah. As title says, I'm so demotivated to keep playing my Sniper..Bold. Combattente Wrote:I'm not saying I don't enjoy it, but I'm just demotivated. It's kinda sad to see people say that your job sucks balls.People are pricks. Losing interest with my Sniper - summer - 2009-03-16 you're not the only one mate... i've lost all motivation to train my bowmaster >.> been 121 since september... and am only 122, 40.02%... i was 122, 38% since a month ... maybe more... i lost count already... blew up my zhelm... can't use my nisrock... can't be arsed to get on to try for zrun again... no one to go with... don't feel like buying, because i can basically get for free, or very cheap... can't CWKPQ, because no pirates around... etc etc etc... Losing interest with my Sniper - Combattente - 2009-03-16 Dyxanije Wrote:Here is my piss poor attempt at trying to get a cookie. Sowwie, no cookie for you. Also, I have NX and I'm married. But since I don't have much time to play, I can't do a lot of PQs and I often don't find any apple for my bad luck, so that doesn't help me much meso-wise. ![]() About why I chose Crossbowman: I did it because I heard that crossbow scrolls were a lot cheaper than bow ones, and I wanted to be "special" because not many people choose my job (because many of them say it sucks). But now I kinda regret it.. D: Losing interest with my Sniper - Dyxanije - 2009-03-16 Combattente Wrote:Sowwie, no cookie for you. Well then there is not much more to say, if you don't like playing your Sniper; quit, start a new character, or continue. Losing interest with my Sniper - Dusk - 2009-03-16 Uh, I made a Ranger in a time before 4th job was out and Snipers owned us in every way imaginable. It's kind of bizarre to see the turnaround. Anyway, just wait for the KMST skill changes to roll around. I'd trade my Bowmaster for a Marksman any day, MMs seem much more fun. Losing interest with my Sniper - Manda - 2009-03-16 Your reasons for starting a crossbowman were the same as mine, I also wanted to take advantage of the then super chea scrolls. I can see why you're becoming demotivated, I'm under the same sort of pressure. All I hear is "BMs > MMs", and at parties people always say "BM" (even in HT when everyone said "NLs/BMs even though the only bowmen THERE were marksmen... yeah, all marksmen at HT! We do get invited to things ), or asking me why I don't have hurricane. I went through a huge training slump with my marksman but I absolutely love my marksman know. We're such a versatile class and we don't just spam one skill. Freezing stuff is fun too! And Snipe is an awesome skill too, especially when it's at a good level. KMST updates are going to make marksmen even better too! Also, when you try attacking with Speed Infusion it's so much more fun. I regularly abuse my boyfriend's SI and it brings my speed up to bowmaster speed. When at a boss with that I don't feel so left out. My guild often ask me to come with a pirate at Zak because everything is faster. I know it might seem like a bit of a grind at the moment but trust me, it's worth getting through the harder levels. I have about the same amount of money as you (mainly because I'm lazy and don't APQ as much as I should), but drop hunting is a nice way of making money. Snowman is a nice way, I usually go there once a week, and I even got 4 scrolls in one channel surfing session.Marksmen really don't suck as much as people say they do. I tell myself that Hurricane is overrated and I'm happy that I have such a wide variety of skills to play around with. People don't see many marksmen around so you'll probably even be commended for sticking with it for so long, compared to those who have given up. All I can really say is try to find something that motivates you. Like a skill, train with a friend, etc. I tend to get motivated by those around me but it might be different for you. Good luck with whatever you choose, but you do have the backing of marksmen everywhere.
Losing interest with my Sniper - Combattente - 2009-03-16 Manda Wrote:Your reasons for starting a crossbowman were the same as mine, I also wanted to take advantage of the then super chea scrolls. I can see why you're becoming demotivated, I'm under the same sort of pressure. All I hear is "BMs > MMs", and at parties people always say "BM" (even in HT when everyone said "NLs/BMs even though the only bowmen THERE were marksmen... yeah, all marksmen at HT! We do get invited to things This indeed deserves a cookie! I'm more motivated now. Thank you! ![]()
Losing interest with my Sniper - GummyBear - 2009-03-16 200K snipe/5secs + speed infusion should make markmen a bit more scary. Losing interest with my Sniper - Cyanne - 2009-03-16 In my opinion, snipers are one of the funnest classes in the game. The problem with marksmen at the moment is that there aren't enough (or any) monsters with high enough hp to be worth piercing on. Time temple will definitely solve this issue, and 1-second pierce and 4-second snipe will make marksmen even funner to play. I think that marksmen are really underrated. Besides, 30% bow scrolls are like ten or more times more expensive than 30% crossbow scrolls, meaning that crossbow users technically get some intrinsic attack (5-10+ ish) for the same amount of money spent assuming you're not dirt-poor or insanely rich. For your 40mil, you could easily afford a 110 att-ish crossbow depending on your server. Losing interest with my Sniper - jikos - 2009-03-16 You have to realize that the way this game's classes were (poorly) designed, there are 3 seperate groups of classes. There's the important/popular ones (Bishops/Night Lords). There's the ImDifferentButImStillUsefulAndPrettyCool ones (Heros/Bowmasters/Dark Knights), and there's the WeRanOutofIdeasSoThisClassWillBeShittyForever ones (Marksmen/Paladins/Arch Mages). Shadowers are kinda in between group 2 and 3 because they are fun i guess. If you have a group 3 class and it's 4th job, and you think it's fun, then please find another game to play. And yea, quit your sniper before you actually get into the deep pomegranate lvls (120+) where you will get more depressed and bored every day. Make something fun (Sin, Cleric, even Fighter is more fun than Crossbowman). Losing interest with my Sniper - Stereo - 2009-03-16 I would say slow down the pace if you're getting bored, try another character maybe for some variety - every time I play a level 2x it reminds me about how far I've gotten since then. But with all the new low level content Nexon continues to add, sometimes it's worth it to start over just so you can experience it at the right level. Plus a decent number of quest rewards are low level, if you just train to 40 you can get 30-40mil of rewards pretty easily (especially with a high level character on backup for more difficult etc. drops). Losing interest with my Sniper - WingZero - 2009-03-16
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I stumbled across a couple of videos uploaded by Cyanne that show how awesome MM are. I don't know about you, but I find them pretty motivating.
Losing interest with my Sniper - Manda - 2009-03-16 Combattente Wrote:This indeed deserves a cookie! I'm more motivated now. Thank you! Aww yay, I'm glad you're more motivated, and you can definitely do it! Marksman are more of a challenge and it's definitely rewarding. I'm proud to be a marksman, and you should be too. We are the few amongst the many! ![]() Level 120+ is not that bad. I've found that 130+ is fun and in the time I've played I've never once been 'bored' of my marksman/sniper. Personally I don't see what's so fun about spamming Hurricane myself but then again, everyone is going to see each class in a different light. I got to high 12x -before- fourth job came out and I still managed fine. Just gotta find what motivates ya. Losing interest with my Sniper - Worthyness - 2009-03-16 i feel you. My bowmaster hasn't leveled ina month, and i've gained a whopping 11% since then. I am one who will not complain about damage because i indeed sacrificed AP to place into my HP, so that i could go on boss runs and hope to not level so much anymore. It's not like anyone cares about my damage anyways... I'm just their SE mule. I still find that my Bowmaster is one of the most fun i've ever had on a character, despite all my average equips, my high strength (when low str or str less didn't exist yet), and my lol damage. I too am poor, but i can deal with it (16 mil total )
Losing interest with my Sniper - ChaosCorpse - 2009-03-17 I created my xbow just as 3rd job was about to be released. Sure I'm happy with it too, but recently, I've found myself in a bit of a slump too. I mean I always lvled slow, and I was fine with that. But recently with this PQ, I find that I'd basically be dependent on a high lvl BM or have to use apples just to finish the archer stage and then wouldn't really be all too useful beyond there (especially since I'll never be an SE mule and am keeping my SE low till 14X). But ya know, I think my problem is that I'm just poor . Having less than 3 Mil for several weeks can't be good for trying to upgrade from a 107 casa to something in the 114+ range. None-the-less trying to get pots regularly.Really though, our class is not entirely our problem. Our main issues are that the layout of the maps is not in our favor currently; and the whole thing you mentioned with equips is related to my problem of being poor; which is a general problem that can affect anybody. Alloy Wrote:Wait until they release monster book... THEN you'll have a 10x level guy ready to hunt most of the stuff! And yes, the monster book is the answer to everything. At the very least it will take a massive amount of what would otherwise be boring time when you don't feel like grinding and all the bosses are already being wiped out by someone else. Losing interest with my Sniper - Chameleonic - 2009-03-17 I hear that if one doesn't have anything good to say then one shouldn't say anything... ![]() Dusk Wrote:Anyway, just wait for the KMST skill changes to roll around. I'd trade my Bowmaster for a Marksman any day, MMs seem much more fun. I feel the exact opposite...I hope I feel the way you do once we get the Skill changes...if we do. |