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Finland legalises Same-sex marriage - Satellite - 2014-11-28
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/28/finland-legalises-gay-marriage
TheGuardian Wrote:Finland legalises gay marriage
Finland becomes 12th European nation to give same-sex unions the same status as heterosexual marriages
The Finnish parliament has narrowly approved a citizen’s initiative to legalise same-sex marriage.
Gay couples in Finland have been able to enter into registered partnerships since 2002, but until now the country was the only in the Nordic region not to allow same-sex marriage. Finland is now the 12th European state to do so.
In the vote, 105 members of parliament supported the legal amendment while 92 opposed it.
The measure will end the distinction in Finland between same-sex unions and heterosexual marriages and give such couples equal rights to adopt children and share a surname.
“Finland should strive to become a society where discrimination does not exist, human rights are respected and two adults can marry regardless of their sexual orientation,” the centre-right prime minister, Alexander Stubb, said in an open letter before the vote.
Most opponents argued that all children should have the right to a father and mother. “This is a question of the future of our children and the whole society, and such changes should not be made without thorough evaluation of their impact,” Mika Niikko of the nationalist Finns party said before the vote.
About time.
Now the bible thumbers and other conservative yokels are threatening to leave the national church or Finland altogether. Biggest shock to them was that the arch bishop approved the same-sex proposal.
At least 5 reasons for me to be happy here:
1. People of the same sex will be able to marry soon.
2. Many people left the national church because of anti-gay statements made in the media.
3. Fundies and holy rollers are leaving the national church now because it "no longer represents christian values"
4. Hopefully the Christian party will move into opposition
5. Nationalist, Populist, Racist and Conservative party (True Finns) and their supporters are mad.
Finland legalises Same-sex marriage - Razmos - 2014-11-28
Yay! that is good news.
Depresses me a bit how close it was though, and I saw on another site the "reasoning" some people gave for saying no, it was truly disgusting to hear some of that stuff in this day and age.
I believe Mississippi and Arkansas in the US have deemed the ban unconstitutional as well just earlier this week.
Finland legalises Same-sex marriage - Derosis - 2014-12-01
Razmos Wrote:Yay! that is good news.
Depresses me a bit how close it was though, and I saw on another site the "reasoning" some people gave for saying no, it was truly disgusting to hear some of that stuff in this day and age.
I believe Mississippi and Arkansas in the US have deemed the ban unconstitutional as well just earlier this week.
Yep. Mississippi deemed it unconstitutional and it wasn't opposed in over a week.
Most people don't care, only the Klan really gave a sh'it to oppose it.
Also you can't be angry with the religious citizens. It's their right to believe such things as that, and matters like those don't exactly separate; even if it is something that determines the country. Others, however, are gullible at best.
@Satellite;
Well yeah, Christians don't believe in Marriage between two single sex individuals. They believe a "Union" is fair, but "Weddings/Marriages" should be kept between man and woman. Most Christians believe in this statement. Most others take it far too seriously and cause issues and cause the majority to look poorly due to the minority.
Finland legalises Same-sex marriage - Jamesie - 2014-12-01
Derosis Wrote:Also you can't be angry with the religious citizens. It's their right to believe such things as that, and matters like those don't exactly separate; even if it is something that determines the country. Others, however, are gullible at best.You have to draw a line at some point. Religion has been used to justify slavery, segregation, miscegeny, "homophobia," as well as racism in general. That's not okay, especially if you are actively intolerant.
Finland legalises Same-sex marriage - Derosis - 2014-12-01
Jamesie Wrote:You have to draw a line at some point. Religion has been used to justify slavery, segregation, miscegeny, "homophobia," as well as racism in general. That's not okay, especially if you are actively intolerant.
I say this because my Uncle grew up the way he did, and it passes down generation by generation. It only starts to become accepting when our world has our eldest generation pass on and we become the eldest generation. Not to mention we still have elders in office, making decisions for us. We're also a country based on Relgion, but did not want church and state to mix. It's hard when your values give bias to your choices.
I'm not saying I'm agreeing with how they run things. But, I can see why they act the way they do. Whether they're right or wrong.
Finland legalises Same-sex marriage - KhainiWest - 2014-12-02
Jamesie Wrote:You have to draw a line at some point. Religion has been used to justify slavery, segregation, miscegeny, "homophobia," as well as racism in general. That's not okay, especially if you are actively intolerant.
I see your point, believe me I do, but look at the bigger picture. Homosexual marriage is by all means a right an individual has, but by no means is anything as ridiculous as the previous inhumanity we had to deal with. Majority of the United States accept Gay Marriage, even if it's forced and the legislation is passed, that cruel bias is going to stay there until they eventually accept it and allow it into their state.
Whether or not it passes, it's not a safe state, pick from the other majority which frankly aren't in pomegranate.