Quote:Watch Dogs' narrative stumbles are bad enough, but it ventures into even more troublesome territory with some of its representation. Female characters in Watch Dogs are victims, to be kidnapped or murdered in the interest of plot or character motivation and are almost all overtly sexualized. Black characters fall into two camps — the aforementioned victims, or, just as maddeningly, criminals. The city of Chicago has an incredibly complicated, difficult history with race, discrimination and segregation. This is a difficult subject to explore in any kind of entertainment. But Watch Dogs' portrayal of Chicago's racial divide seems potentially tone-deaf.

Meanwhile, the Profiler's "flavor text," dynamic descriptions assigned to the randomly created NPCs that fill Watch Dogs' Chicago, frequently seem to be lowest-common denominator attempts at humor. When I saw "transgender" and similar attributes presented as throwaway personality quirks, I wasn't laughing.

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Wait so are we talking about how the review was a bad review, or how they reviewed the game and thought that the game was bad?
I don't exactly see how that's a bad review.

Kabanaw Wrote:If I were to guess I would say that Spook Country is a reference to the 2007 novel Spook Country, which seems to explore a lot of the same themes as Watch_Dogs does.

Also considering one of the first plot-points in the game is the main character's niece getting murdered I'm willing to believe his comment about women only existing to be victimized isn't far off.

Flonne Wrote:It's just a bunch of SJW crap. The game isn't that great, I don't care THAT they thought it sucked, I care WHY they said it sucked.



Correct, that was most likely their aim, but words/terms mean more than one thing, and "spook" is a pretty bad racial slur. I'm just pointing out the irony that they called a game "racially tone-deaf" while using a racial derogative right in the title. If they hadn't said that, it wouldn't matter as much, but they are trying to take a moral high ground (or what they think is one) toward race and gender relations in this article.

Flonne Wrote:It's just a bunch of SJW crap. The game isn't that great, I don't care THAT they thought it sucked, I care WHY they said it sucked.

MuscleWizard Wrote:one of the random descriptions that someone screencapped on a dude was "writes MLP fan fiction"

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:And I've never heard "spook" as a racial slur.

MasPan Wrote:Spook here is clearly referring to the nickname spies, hackers, etc are given in the military. I have no idea how you're confusing that for a racial context.

MasPan Wrote:Spook here is clearly referring to the nickname spies, hackers, etc are given in the military. I have no idea how you're confusing that for a racial context.

Flonne Wrote:I'm not confusing it, I realized from the start, but the word means multiple things; if he's going to take a moral high ground, he better be prepared for people to bring up any loose end he happens to have.

MasPan Wrote:You're using the exact same bullpomegranate arguments he is, then complaining about the bullpomegranate arguments he's making. It's two strawmen pointing fingers at each other and each laughing at the fact that the other one is covered in crow pomegranate.

xparasite9 Wrote:-snip-

Flonne Wrote:YES, I AM. THATSTHEJOKE

There is a reason I didn't post this in current events, you know. If he's going to use retarded arguments and act superior about it, then he should be prepared to have the same thing done to him.



hahaha, that ending...

Well, after watching that, I can say this isn't even a maybe on piracy, not even worth stealing. One of the biggest issues I have is the map size, I saw a comparison map with various GTA games and it's a tiny ass square compared to all of them. I just checked and it's 14GB, too. What an unoptimized piece of crap...sure you can interact by hacking, but it lost all other interactions based on what I saw from that.

Kabanaw Wrote:Watch_Dogs is probably 14 GB because it's a next-gen game that uses high-res textures.

Flonne Wrote:Not based on that video posted in this thread. I've seen the game on highest settings and it still doesn't look amazing, and there's also the fact that you need a $5K+ PC to even run it that high.