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Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - moore4me - 2014-05-05
This one should be a very interesting battle to ensue. Right now the state is in a court battle to keep the Ten Commandments statue up outside the capitol. If they when then how can they turn down the Satanic one. Oh yes quite the sticky wicket.
http://www.vice.com/read/heres-the-first-look-at-the-new-satanic-monument-being-built-for-oklahomas-statehouse
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Razmos - 2014-05-05
lol, I find this funny.
If certain religions can have whatever religious symbols they want all over the place, what's stopping other religions from doing the same, they are all subject to the same laws.
Someone in the comments summed it up in a cool way:
Quote:As a Christian, i totally agree with what is happening here. Though i do not believe in the doctrines of satanism, they have the right to exercise their religion equally to Christians as long as the practices of their religion do not infringe on anyone's life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness.
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Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Takebacker - 2014-05-05
moore4me Wrote:Oh yes quite the sticky wicket.
This made me lol harder than expected
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - xparasite9 - 2014-05-05
What makes you think this is any noteworthy thing though
As long as they are doing this with true intentions and not just "IRL trolling" then let them have at it. This is America after all.
Volatire Wrote:I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
now that I have actually read the article I'm starting to question the motives...
article (Emphasis added) Wrote:The Baphomet, which will stand seven feet tall and be a testament to the glory of the Angel of the Bottomless Pit, would be placed directly beside the sculpture glorifying the laws given to Moses by the Christian God
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - ShinkuDragon - 2014-05-05
xparasite9 Wrote:What makes you think this is any noteworthy thing though
As long as they are doing this with true intentions and not just "IRL trolling" then let them have at it. This is America after all.
now that I have actually read the article I'm starting to question the motives...
seems to be a bit of both really. they ARE a satanist cult from what i gather
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Mute - 2014-05-05
ShinkuDragon Wrote:seems to be a bit of both really. they ARE a satanist cult from what i gather
If Scientology can call itself a church (even though France calls them a cult), then Satanists can say they're a church.
From my understanding, it's all about seperation of church and state, and freedom of religious expression. I wish I could see how this unfolds, but I'll wait til it pops up in international headlines.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - ShinkuDragon - 2014-05-05
Mute Wrote:If Scientology can call itself a church (even though France calls them a cult), then Satanists can say they're a church.
From my understanding, it's all about seperation of church and state, and freedom of religious expression. I wish I could see how this unfolds, but I'll wait til it pops up in international headlines.
well, i meant that, cult, church, group, the point is that this is an actual group that does revere satan, rather than a bunch of guys who only thought it'd be nice to mess with the government/protest about the separation between church and state.
for them, they can only win this, either they get the 10 commands out, or they get the devil in, if neither, they get the attention and the smart (aka not-zealous) people will understand why they tried what they tried.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Luxeraph - 2014-05-05
How could they turn this down? It looks way better than any slab with words.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - moore4me - 2014-05-05
xparasite9 Wrote:What makes you think this is any noteworthy thing though
As long as they are doing this with true intentions and not just "IRL trolling" then let them have at it. This is America after all.
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Why I find this noteworthy is the fact that, the group who is fighting the ACLU right now on keeping up the TEN COMMANDMENTS statue is also fighting for the right to have the Satanic statue up. I am sure this has caused several of those people much stress and grief. While I do not think they will beat the ACLU, it will be interesting to see if they do win how open armly they will welcome the new statue or if they will fight to have it kept off the grounds.
Personally I do not care either way. While I am not religious, I do find the Ten Commandments just a good set of rules to live by for everyone. The other side wanting to put up a Satanic statue confronts me in now way.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Razmos - 2014-05-05
It definitely seems like an expression of religious freedom to me, and it shines a spotlight on the hold Christianity has on America.
If the commandments statue gets to stay, but the satanist statue doesn't, it would show how hypocritical the whole religious freedom thing is, since it seems that Christians have the most freedom when it comes to expression. Whatever happens, it will be very interesting to see.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Foolyz - 2014-05-05
This statue won't be erected, and the other statue will remain. We all know it, however fucked up it may be.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Words - 2014-05-05
Recently I saw a video of a politician? saying that first amendment was only for christians. We all know they're hypocrites.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - VerrKol - 2014-05-05
Mute Wrote:If Scientology can call itself a church (even though France calls them a cult), then Satanists can say they're a church.
From my understanding, it's all about seperation of church and state, and freedom of religious expression. I wish I could see how this unfolds, but I'll wait til it pops up in international headlines.
You know the difference between a religion and a cult? Size.
I thought the statue was surprisingly attractive. I don't really care for the "adoring" children, but Baphomet himself is lookin' good.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - xparasite9 - 2014-05-05
Mute Wrote:If Scientology can call itself a church (even though France calls them a cult), then Satanists can say they're a church.
"cult" has only recently amassed the negative connotations that are causing you to cry foul on its use.
Words Wrote:Recently I saw a video of a politician? saying that first amendment was only for christians. We all know they're hypocrites.oh nooo ONE GUY of dubious existence and unrelated qualifications said some thing in some unknown context! clearly this must be representative of all people he claims to be allied with, in every situation!
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Moonlapse - 2014-05-05
This is probably the most metal story in the history of America.
Also AFIAK most "satanists" actually don't believe in Satan. Look up Chaos Gnosticism, that's the real deal.
VerrKol Wrote:I thought the statue was surprisingly attractive. I don't really care for the "adoring" children, but Baphomet himself is lookin' good.
I found them hilarious.
"Now kids sit on Baphomet's lap and tell him what Slayer album you want!"
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Mute - 2014-05-05
xparasite9 Wrote:"cult" has only recently amassed the negative connotations that are causing you to cry foul on its use.
Christianity was once a cult. The roman theological system could also be called a cult. Sects of islam can be a cult.
Whether or not is has a negative connotation, that is how the scientologist movement is referred to here in the states vice in france. Sure is has a lot of negatives to it from lookers-on, but like with everything there is bound to be some good from it. s'all about perspective.
Moonlapse Wrote:This is probably the most metal story in the history of America.
Also AFIAK most "satanists" actually don't believe in Satan. Look up Chaos Gnosticism, that's the real deal.
I found them hilarious.
"Now kids sit on Baphomet's lap and tell him what Slayer album you want!"
"Dear Satan, for my midsummers eve I'd like a statuette of Ozzy eating the head of a bat, and a life-size poster of Cliff Burton."
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - moore4me - 2014-05-05
Moonlapse Wrote:This is probably the most metal story in the history of America.
Also AFIAK most "satanists" actually don't believe in Satan. Look up Chaos Gnosticism, that's the real deal.
I found them hilarious.
"Now kids sit on Baphomet's lap and tell him what Slayer album you want!"
Here is where I found the story to begin with but backtracked the story to what may be seen as a more reliable source even thought it is the same story.
http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/statue-of-baphomet-is-almost-done-for-the-oklahoma-state-capitol
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - Moonlapse - 2014-05-05
moore4me Wrote:Here is where I found the story to begin with but backtracked the story to what may be seen as a more reliable source even thought it is the same story.
http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/statue-of-baphomet-is-almost-done-for-the-oklahoma-state-capitol
Vital Remains' vocalist spearheaded this? This keeps getting better and better!
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - KhainiWest - 2014-05-06
xparasite9 Wrote:oh nooo ONE GUY of dubious existence and unrelated qualifications said some thing in some unknown context! clearly this must be representative of all people he claims to be allied with, in every situation!
How many examples do you want? "United states was founded on Christianity", "The reason everything is running amuck is because god was taken out of school", and so on?
WATER BOARDING IS BAPTISING TERRORISTS.
Satanic Statue Almost ready for OK Capitol - moore4me - 2014-05-06
I love that newest Sarah Palin quote. I really wonder if she is not a liberal democrat who infiltrated the conservative republican party and is damaging it from the inside.