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Is infinite bind possible? - Liteness - 2014-04-12

5 xenons sit in temporal pod if it stacks thats 10sec cooldown reduction every 1sec, just have 1 binder/atker strong enough to solo bosses Biggrin


Is infinite bind possible? - Takebacker - 2014-04-12

It is not.


Is infinite bind possible? - Digitalium - 2014-04-12

i wish lol


Is infinite bind possible? - ultimax21 - 2014-04-12

The bind skill itself has a cd time for multiple casts. Even if you got multiple of the same classes, you cannot cast again for another 60 secs + extra server time. You would wind up with at least 10-20 secs extra waiting time to make sure 100% it goes in. 1 Kanna and 1 paladin will cover all 3 binds.


Is infinite bind possible? - Dudewitbow - 2014-04-12

there are like 3ish(?) tiers of binds that can work together. but binds of the same tier do not stack

of what i can remember:

Tier 1: Paladin(smite), Xenon
Tier 2: Kanna
Tier 3: Demon(both), Luminous

I forgot where crash sits


Is infinite bind possible? - Takebacker - 2014-04-12

Dudewitbow Wrote:there are like 3ish(?) tiers of binds that can work together. but binds of the same tier do not stack

of what i can remember:

Tier 1: Paladin(smite), Xenon
Tier 2: Kanna
Tier 3: Demon(both), Luminous

I forgot where crash sits

Crash isn't a bind, unless you want to call it tier 4.

Tier 1: paladin, xenon, demon slayer/avenger, kanna hyper bind
Tier 2: luminous, some others i don't remember
Tier 3: kanna non hyper

As far as i remember


Is infinite bind possible? - Chicocl - 2014-04-12

And I/L and Zero Bind?. Also, Eunwol Bind if possible.


Is infinite bind possible? - tecul1 - 2014-04-12

Chicocl Wrote:And I/L and Zero Bind?. Also, Eunwol Bind if possible.

I/L is group 1. Zero iirc is its own group like kanna nonhyper.

Eunwol IDK. Any KMSers know?


Is infinite bind possible? - Arrol - 2014-04-12

Chicocl Wrote:And I/L and Zero Bind?. Also, Eunwol Bind if possible.

And NW Bind? Stupid question, seeing it's still in testing.


Is infinite bind possible? - xmarioz25 - 2014-04-12

Takebacker Wrote:Tier 1: paladin, xenon, demon slayer/avenger, kanna hyper bind
Tier 2: luminous, some others i don't remember
Tier 3: kanna non hyper

Kanna hyper may be Tier 3 because I just went empress last night and did
1. Kanna Hyper
2. Paladin
3. Kanna non Hyper

and they worked smooth
:f6:


Is infinite bind possible? - holycow - 2014-04-12

xmarioz25 Wrote:Kanna hyper may be Tier 3 because I just went empress last night and did
1. Kanna Hyper
2. Paladin
3. Kanna non Hyper

and they worked smooth
:f6:
[COLOR="#0000FF"]That's because it's in tier 1 :f6:
if kanna's hyper was tier 3, it wouldn't have stacked with kanna's 4th job bind.
paladin and xenon is tier 2, luminous, ds and da are tier 1

tier 1: ds/da/lumi/kanna (hyper)
tier 2: paladin/xenon
tier 3: kanna (4th job)[/COLOR]



Is infinite bind possible? - xmarioz25 - 2014-04-13

holycow Wrote:[COLOR="#0000FF"]That's because it's in tier 1 :f6:
if kanna's hyper was tier 3, it wouldn't have stacked with kanna's 4th job bind.
paladin and xenon is tier 2, luminous, ds and da are tier 1

tier 1: ds/da/lumi/kanna (hyper)
tier 2: paladin/xenon
tier 3: kanna (4th job)[/COLOR]

Oh wow, my bad, I misread or something lol


Is infinite bind possible? - iVege - 2014-04-13

I don't believe it's the same kind of bind effect, but isn't Issen capable of achieving something similar to infinite bind uptime?


Is infinite bind possible? - tecul1 - 2014-04-13

iVege Wrote:I don't believe it's the same kind of bind effect, but isn't Issen capable of achieving something similar to infinite bind uptime?

Why yes, that is correct.

If you can achieve speed 1 (aka just use a green pot) most bosses can be kb'd indefinitely.


Is infinite bind possible? - Ed Wuncler - 2014-04-16

tecul1 Wrote:Why yes, that is correct.

If you can achieve speed 1 (aka just use a green pot) most bosses can be kb'd indefinitely.
Most bosses can't be kb'd tho


Is infinite bind possible? - KhainiWest - 2014-04-16

Haha, this reminds me of the shadower smokescreen thing, unfortunately I think this is one of the few things nexon pays attention too


Is infinite bind possible? - KillerZero - 2014-04-16

Ed Wuncler Wrote:Most bosses can't be kb'd tho

except they can with hayato 'bind' skill because it forces them to, even if it doesnt hit the damage to knock them back


Is infinite bind possible? - Zelkova - 2014-04-16

Arrol Wrote:And NW Bind? Stupid question, seeing it's still in testing.

The NW bind is weird to say the least. Its a keydown, as you hold the key down the bind creeps along the whole platform slowly and only activates after you let go of the key.

If I were to classify it, it would be in the same class as Demon Slayer solely because it has a root animation. I have not been able to test it with any other classes yet. Also the skill is bugged right now so you can cast it twice within the same cooldown duration if you just never let go of the key.


Is infinite bind possible? - tecul1 - 2014-04-16

KillerZero Wrote:except they can with hayato 'bind' skill because it forces them to, even if it doesnt hit the damage to knock them back

Hayatos share this quality with MMs that they can KB bosses that the normal dmg cap won't allow.