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Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - modular - 2008-07-07

There is a really old thread on this, here. It died a long time ago and does not have any 4th job information. Consider this thread an extension of the idea to provide a table of values that will help tell you exactly how much damage you can do with your attack skills.

Everyone knows how confusing the mechanics of combo are, new crusaders always have the question "How much % is coma at level __ with level __ combo and __ orbs?" and no one can really answer it. I will dispel the confusion.

My tables are based on data stripped from the .wz files by Fiel, the assumption that Nexon tries to make the skill as simple as possible, the widely accepted values for level 30 combo, the screenshots proving level 30 advanced combo is 188.3% - 191.8%, and testing by myself and others.

One last comment, by request of WhiteAsIce:
combo is MULTIPLICATIVE, not ADDITIVE
For example, max powerstrike with 5 orbs on max Combo deals 2.6 * 1.4 = 364%

Without further ado:

[SIZE="4"]Combo[/SIZE]
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Advanced Combo[/SIZE]

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Hopefully when a noob crusader asks questions about combo, we can rudely link him here and close his thread. :cookie:

Acknowledgements:
Zadam, for the original thread.
Fiel, for Advanced Combo data and more data stripped from the .wz file and the table image.
Posts with good info like this


As a side note, this thread has been moved / removed from sleepywood.


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - modular - 2008-07-07

Useful posts:
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And now, a new addition.

[SIZE="4"]Panic and Coma Multipliers[/SIZE]

{Skill %}/100 * {Combo %}/100 * {Orb Multiplier}

Orb Multipliers
1 - 1
2 - 1.2
3 - 1.54
4 - 2
5-10 - 2.5

Let's take 9 orb panic with 29 AC as an example.
350%/100 * 185%/100 * 2.5
3.5 * 1.85 * 2.5 = 16.1875
This translates to panic dishing out 1618.75%.


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - Hazzy - 2008-07-07

Yes, I love you and this thread. Sticky please. Heart


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - modular - 2008-07-08

Hazzy Wrote:Yes, I love you and this thread. Sticky please. Heart

i never felt like it needed a sticky because there were other threads that would refer you to it as part of a large amount of information. i still feel this way. it would just clog the stickies because really its too specific to be a sticky.


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - Phoenix - 2008-07-08

Last I posted was at lvl 1. Now at max combo, it's still the most accurate values I've seen =D


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - Hazzy - 2008-07-08

modular Wrote:i never felt like it needed a sticky because there were other threads that would refer you to it as part of a large amount of information. i still feel this way. it would just clog the stickies because really its too specific to be a sticky.

Combo Damage Tables are huge for Crusaders and Heros, something that should be stickied, if not linked to in some "Warrior Information Thread!" Sticky. Heart

Besides, what stickies? All this section has is "Ask a Warrior Thread". Excellent


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - modular - 2008-07-08

Hazzy Wrote:Combo Damage Tables are huge for Crusaders and Heros, something that should be stickied, if not linked to in some "Warrior Information Thread!" Sticky. Heart

Besides, what stickies? All this section has is "Ask a Warrior Thread". Excellent

yeah, the forums still new. itll get clogged Tongue


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - modular - 2008-07-16

edited 2nd post, bumping to let people know there are changes. added panic and coma section after debating writing a new thread and coming to the conclusion that people would need both parts open at the same time to make full use.

comments and criticisms welcomed but not necessary. Biggrin

edit: i realized that for now, i only have max panic / coma numbers.


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - RFSurg - 2008-07-16

The ac + finisher info is wrong, with level 25 AC and max panic I could do 16xx% of my range on snails. I think it follows the pattern I posted in the formula thread in the hunting grounds.

EDIT : Training Center not hunting grounds >_>


Crusader/Hero - Combo & Advanced Combo Tables - modular - 2008-07-17

RFSurg Wrote:The ac + finisher info is wrong, with level 25 AC and max panic I could do 16xx% of my range on snails. I think it follows the pattern I posted in the formula thread in the hunting grounds.

EDIT : Training Center not hunting grounds >_>

yeah ive seen that method before and its better than what i was trying to do because it takes lower level panic/coma into account at the same time. thanks for pointing me to it. Biggrin
however, both ways give the same numbers for what you described. 1618.75%. i dunno what you were doing to get something else.