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[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - Locked - 2013-08-04

As per request of [MENTION=7678]ShinkuDragon[/MENTION];

Pool A

000001 - STR: +#incSTR

000002 - DEX: +#incDEX

000003 - INT: +#incINT

000004 - LUK: +#incLUK

000005 - MaxHP: +#incMHP

000006 - MaxMP: +#incMMP

000007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

000008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

000009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

000010 - Jump: +#incJump

000011 - ATT: +#incPAD

000012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

000013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

000014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

000901 - #prop% chance to go into a rage for #time seconds when attacked.

000902 - #prop% chance to feel happy for #time seconds when attack.

000903 - #prop% chance to fall in love for #time seconds when attacked.

000904 - #prop% chance to get furious for #time seconds when attacked.

000905 - #prop% chance to be deeply moved for #time seconds when attacked.

002001 - STR : +#incSTR

002002 - DEX : +#incDEX

002003 - INT : +#incINT

002004 - LUK : +#incLUK

002005 - MaxHP : +#incMHP

002006 - MaxMP : +#incMMP

002007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

002008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

002009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

002010 - Jump: +#incJump

002011 - ATT: +#incPAD

002012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

002013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

002014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

002015 - ATT: +#incPAD

002016 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

002901 - #prop% chance to go into a rage for #time seconds when attacked.

002902 - #prop% chance to feel happy for #time seconds when attack.

002903 - #prop% chance to fall in love for #time seconds when attacked.

002904 - #prop% chance to get furious for #time seconds when attacked.

002905 - #prop% chance to be deeply moved for #time seconds when attacked.

Pool B

010001 - STR: +#incSTR

010002 - DEX: +#incDEX

010003 - INT: +#incINT

010004 - LUK: +#incLUK

010005 - MaxHP: +#incMHP

010006 - MaxMP: +#incMMP

010007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

010008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

010009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

010010 - Jump: +#incJump

010011 - ATT: +#incPAD

010012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

010013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

010014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

010041 - STR: +#incSTRr%

010042 - DEX: +#incDEXr%

010043 - INT: +#incINTr%

010044 - LUK: +#incLUKr%

010045 - MaxHP: +#incMHPr%

010046 - MaxMP: +#incMMPr%

010047 - Accuracy: +#incACCr%

010048 - Avoidability: +#incEVAr%

010051 - ATT: +#incPADr%

010052 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

010053 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDDr%

010054 - Magic DEF: +#incMDDr%

010055 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

010070 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

010081 - All Stats: +#incSTR

010151 - Recover #RecoveryHP HP every 4 seconds.

010156 - Recover #RecoveryMP MP every 4 seconds.

010201 - #prop% chance to recover #HP HP when attacking.

010206 - #prop% chance to recover #MP MP when attacking.

010221 - #prop% chance to apply Lv. #level Poison when attacking.

010226 - #prop% chance to apply Lv. #level Stun when attacking.

010231 - #prop% chance to apply Lv. #level Slow when attacking.

010236 - #prop% chance to apply Lv. #level Blind when attacking.

010241 - #prop% chance to apply Lv. #level Freeze when attacking.

010246 - #prop% chance to apply Lv. #level Seal when attacking.

010291 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

012001 - STR : +#incSTR

012002 - DEX : +#incDEX

012003 - INT : +#incINT

012004 - LUK : +#incLUK

012005 - MaxHP : +#incMHP

012006 - MaxMP : +#incMMP

012007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

012008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

012009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

012010 - Jump: +#incJump

012011 - ATT: +#incPAD

012012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

012013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

012014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

012015 - STR : +#incSTR

012016 - DEX : +#incDEX

012017 - INT : +#incINT

012018 - LUK : +#incLUK

012019 - ATT: +#incPAD

012020 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

012041 - STR : +#incSTRr%

012042 - DEX : +#incDEXr%

012043 - INT : +#incINTr%

012044 - LUK : +#incLUKr%

012045 - MaxHP : +#incMHPr%

012046 - MaxMP : +#incMMPr%

012047 - STR : +#incSTRr%

012048 - DEX : +#incDEXr%

012049 - INT : +#incINTr%

012050 - LUK : +#incLUKr%

012051 - ATT: +#incPADr%

012052 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

012053 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDDr%

012054 - Magic DEF: +#incMDDr%

012055 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

012070 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

012081 - All Stats: +#incSTR

012082 - All Stats: +#incSTR

012801 - Max Damage Cap Increase: +#incMaxDamage

Pool C

020001 - STR: +#incSTR

020002 - DEX: +#incDEX

020003 - INT: +#incINT

020004 - LUK: +#incLUK

020005 - MaxHP: +#incMHP

020006 - MaxMP: +#incMMP

020007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

020008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

020009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

020010 - Jump: +#incJump

020011 - ATT: +#incPAD

020012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

020013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

020014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

020041 - STR: +#incSTRr%

020042 - DEX: +#incDEXr%

020043 - INT: +#incINTr%

020044 - LUK: +#incLUKr%

020045 - MaxHP: +#incMHPr%

020046 - MaxMP: +#incMMPr%

020047 - Accuracy: +#incACCr%

020048 - Avoidability: +#incEVAr%

020051 - ATT: +#incPADr%

020052 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

020053 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDDr%

020054 - Magic DEF: +#incMDDr%

020055 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

020070 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

020086 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

020201 - #prop% chance to recover #HP HP when attacking.

020206 - #prop% chance to recover #MP MP when attacking.

020291 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

020351 - #prop% chance to ignore #ignoreDAM damage when attacked.

020352 - #prop% chance to ignore #ignoreDAM damage when attacked.

020353 - #prop% chance to ignore #ignoreDAM damage when attacked.

020366 - Invincible for #time more seconds after getting attacked.

020396 - Abnormal Status Duration: -#time sec.

020401 - #prop% chance to recover #HP HP after defeating an enemy.

020406 - #prop% chance to recover #MP MP after defeating an enemy.

022001 - STR : +#incSTR

022002 - DEX : +#incDEX

022003 - INT : +#incINT

022004 - LUK : +#incLUK

022005 - MaxHP : +#incMHP

022006 - MaxMP : +#incMMP

022007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

022008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

022009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

022010 - Jump: +#incJump

022011 - ATT: +#incPAD

022012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

022013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

022014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

022041 - STR : +#incSTRr%

022042 - DEX : +#incDEXr%

022043 - INT : +#incINTr%

022044 - LUK : +#incLUKr%

022045 - MaxHP : +#incMHPr%

022046 - MaxMP : +#incMMPr%

022047 - Accuracy: +#incACCr%

022048 - Avoidability: +#incEVAr%

022051 - ATT: +#incPADr%

022052 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

022053 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDDr%

022054 - Magic DEF: +#incMDDr%

022055 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

022056 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

022057 - STR : +#incSTRr%

022058 - DEX : +#incDEXr%

022059 - INT : +#incINTr%

022060 - LUK : +#incLUKr%

022070 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

022086 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

022087 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

022201 - #prop% chance to recover #HP HP when attacking.

022206 - #prop% chance to recover #MP MP when attacking.

022291 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

022801 - Max Damage Cap Increase: +#incMaxDamage

022802 - Max Damage Cap Increase: +#incMaxDamage

Pool D

030001 - STR: +#incSTR

030002 - DEX: +#incDEX

030003 - INT: +#incINT

030004 - LUK: +#incLUK

030005 - MaxHP: +#incMHP

030006 - MaxMP: +#incMMP

030007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

030008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

030009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

030010 - Jump: +#incJump

030011 - ATT: +#incPAD

030012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

030013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

030014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

030041 - STR: +#incSTRr%

030042 - DEX: +#incDEXr%

030043 - INT: +#incINTr%

030044 - LUK: +#incLUKr%

030045 - MaxHP: +#incMHPr%

030046 - MaxMP: +#incMMPr%

030047 - Accuracy: +#incACCr%

030048 - Avoidability: +#incEVAr%

030051 - ATT: +#incPADr%

030052 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

030053 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDDr%

030054 - Magic DEF: +#incMDDr%

030055 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

030070 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

030086 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

030106 - All Skills: +#incAllskill Levels

030107 - All Skills: +#incAllskill Levels

030291 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

030356 - #prop% chance to ignore #ignoreDAMr% damage when attacked.

030357 - #prop% chance to ignore #ignoreDAMr% damage when attacked.

030366 - Invincible for #time more seconds after getting attacked.

030371 - #prop% chance to become invincible for #time seconds when attacked.

030551 - HP Recovery Items and Skills: +#RecoveryUP%

030601 - Damage to Bosses: +#incDAMr%

030602 - Damage to Bosses: +#incDAMr%

030701 - #prop% chance to apply Auto Steal.

030702 - #prop% chance to apply Auto Steal.

031001 - Enables the <Decent Haste> skill

031002 - Enables the <Decent Mystic Door> skill

031003 - Enables the <Decent Sharp Eyes> skill

031004 - Enables the <Decent Hyper Body> skill

032001 - STR : +#incSTR

032002 - DEX : +#incDEX

032003 - INT : +#incINT

032004 - LUK : +#incLUK

032005 - MaxHP : +#incMHP

032006 - MaxMP : +#incMMP

032007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

032008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

032009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

032010 - Jump: +#incJump

032011 - ATT: +#incPAD

032012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

032013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

032014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

032041 - STR : +#incSTRr%

032042 - DEX : +#incDEXr%

032043 - INT : +#incINTr%

032044 - LUK : +#incLUKr%

032045 - MaxHP : +#incMHPr%

032046 - MaxMP : +#incMMPr%

032047 - Accuracy: +#incACCr%

032048 - Avoidability: +#incEVAr%

032051 - ATT: +#incPADr%

032052 - ATT: +#incPADr%

032053 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

032054 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

032055 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDDr%

032056 - Magic DEF: +#incMDDr%

032057 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

032058 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

032059 - STR : +#incSTRr%

032060 - DEX : +#incDEXr%

032061 - INT : +#incINTr%

032062 - LUK : +#incLUKr%

032070 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

032071 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

032086 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

032087 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

032111 - All Elemental Resistances: +#incTerR%

032116 - Abnormal Status Resistance: +#incAsrR%

032291 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

032601 - Damage to Bosses: +#incDAMr%

032801 - Max Damage Cap Increase: +#incMaxDamage

032802 - Max Damage Cap Increase: +#incMaxDamage

032661 - EXP Obtained: +#incEXPr%

032091 - STR per 10 Character Levels: +#incSTRlv

032092 - DEX per 10 Character Levels: +#incDEXlv

032093 - INT per 10 Character Levels: +#incINTlv

032094 - LUK per 10 Character Levels: +#incLUKlv

032551 - HP Recovery Items and Skills: +#RecoveryUP%

032201 - #prop% chance to recover #HP HP when attacking.

032206 - #prop% chance to recover #MP MP when attacking.

Pool E

040001 - STR: +#incSTR

040002 - DEX: +#incDEX

040003 - INT: +#incINT

040004 - LUK: +#incLUK

040005 - MaxHP: +#incMHP

040006 - MaxMP: +#incMMP

040007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

040008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

040009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

040010 - Jump: +#incJump

040011 - ATT: +#incPAD

040012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

040013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

040014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

040041 - STR: +#incSTRr%

040042 - DEX: +#incDEXr%

040043 - INT: +#incINTr%

040044 - LUK: +#incLUKr%

040045 - MaxHP: +#incMHPr%

040046 - MaxMP: +#incMMPr%

040047 - Accuracy: +#incACCr%

040048 - Avoidability: +#incEVAr%

040051 - ATT: +#incPADr%

040052 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

040053 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDDr%

040054 - Magic DEF: +#incMDDr%

040055 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

040056 - Min Crit Damage: +#incCriticaldamageMin%

040057 - Max Crit Damage: +#incCriticaldamageMax%

040070 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

040081 - All Stats: +#incSTR

040086 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

040106 - All Skills: +#incAllskill Levels

040107 - All Skills: +#incAllskill Levels

040111 - All Elemental Resistances: +#incTerR%

040116 - Abnormal Status Resistance: +#incAsrR%

040291 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

040292 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

040356 - #prop% chance to ignore #ignoreDAMr% damage when attacked.

040357 - #prop% chance to ignore #ignoreDAMr% damage when attacked.

040366 - Invincible for #time more seconds after getting attacked.

040371 - #prop% chance to become invincible for #time seconds when attacked.

040376 - #prop% chance to reflect #DAMreflect% damage.

040377 - #prop% chance to reflect #DAMreflect% damage.

040501 - Skill MP Cost: -#mpconReduce%

040502 - Skill MP Cost: -#mpconReduce%

040551 - HP Recovery Items and Skills: +#RecoveryUP%

040556 - Skill Cooldown: -#reduceCooltime sec \n (Up to -5 sec)

040557 - Skill Cooldown: -#reduceCooltime sec \n (Up to -5 sec)

040601 - Damage to Bosses: +#incDAMr%

040602 - Damage to Bosses: +#incDAMr%

040603 - Damage to Bosses: +#incDAMr%

040650 - Mesos Obtained: +#incMesoProp%

040656 - Item Drop Rate: +#incRewardProp%

040701 - #prop% chance to apply Auto Steal.

040702 - #prop% chance to apply Auto Steal.

040703 - #prop% chance to apply Auto Steal.

041005 - Enables the <Decent Combat Orders> skill

041006 - Enables the <Decent Advanced Blessing> skill

041007 - Enables the <Decent Speed Infusion> skill

042001 - STR : +#incSTR

042002 - DEX : +#incDEX

042003 - INT : +#incINT

042004 - LUK : +#incLUK

042005 - MaxHP : +#incMHP

042006 - MaxMP : +#incMMP

042007 - Accuracy: +#incACC

042008 - Avoidability: +#incEVA

042009 - Movement Speed: +#incSpeed

042010 - Jump: +#incJump

042011 - ATT: +#incPAD

042012 - Magic ATT: +#incMAD

042013 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDD

042014 - Magic DEF: +#incMDD

042041 - STR : +#incSTRr%

042042 - DEX : +#incDEXr%

042043 - INT : +#incINTr%

042044 - LUK : +#incLUKr%

042045 - MaxHP : +#incMHPr%

042046 - MaxMP : +#incMMPr%

042047 - Accuracy: +#incACCr%

042048 - Avoidability: +#incEVAr%

042051 - ATT: +#incPADr%

042052 - ATT: +#incPADr%

042053 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

042054 - Magic ATT: +#incMADr%

042055 - Weapon DEF: +#incPDDr%

042056 - Magic DEF: +#incMDDr%

042057 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

042058 - Critical Rate: +#incCr%

042059 - Min Crit Damage: +#incCriticaldamageMin%

042060 - Min Crit Damage: +#incCriticaldamageMin%

042061 - Max Crit Damage: +#incCriticaldamageMax%

042062 - Max Crit Damage: +#incCriticaldamageMax%

042063 - STR : +#incSTRr%

042064 - DEX : +#incDEXr%

042065 - INT : +#incINTr%

042066 - LUK : +#incLUKr%

042070 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

042071 - Total Damage: +#incDAMr%

042086 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

042087 - All Stats: +#incSTRr%

042106 - All Skills: +#incAllskill Levels

042111 - All Elemental Resistances: +#incTerR%

042116 - Abnormal Status Resistance: +#incAsrR%

042291 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

042292 - Ignores #ignoreTargetDEF% of the enemy's DEF when attacking.

042601 - Damage to Bosses: +#incDAMr%

042602 - Damage to Bosses: +#incDAMr%

042801 - Max Damage Cap Increase: +#incMaxDamage

042802 - Max Damage Cap Increase: +#incMaxDamage

042661 - EXP Obtained: +#incEXPr%

042091 - STR per 10 Character Levels: +#incSTRlv

042092 - DEX per 10 Character Levels: +#incDEXlv

042093 - INT per 10 Character Levels: +#incINTlv

042094 - LUK per 10 Character Levels: +#incLUKlv

042095 - ATT per 10 Character Levels: +#incPADlv

042096 - M. ATT per 10 Character Levels: +#incMADlv

042501 - Skill MP Cost: -#mpconReduce%

042551 - HP Recovery Items and Skills: +#RecoveryUP%

042556 - Skill Cooldown: -#reduceCooltime sec \n (Up to -5 sec)

042650 - Mesos Obtained: +#incMesoProp%

042656 - Item Drop Rate: +#incRewardProp%

Mu Lung Dojo Buffs

If you find any mistakes, please tell me.

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - Marksman Bryan - 2013-08-04

Thank you Locked. I know I've wanted a refreshed list and I'm sure tons of other people are happy with this.

I haven't had time to look at it in detail, but are these all normal potential options? Would it be possible to have a separate one with bonus potential options?

edit: These look to include bonus and normal potentials, so I'll rephrase my question: is there any way to differentiate the two?

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - ShinkuDragon - 2013-08-04

Marksman Bryan Wrote:Thank you Locked. I know I've wanted a refreshed list and I'm sure tons of other people are happy with this.

I haven't had time to look at it in detail, but are these all normal potential options? Would it be possible to have a separate one with bonus potential options?

edit: These look to include bonus and normal potentials, so I'll rephrase my question: is there any way to differentiate the two?

for you and anyone else that comes with the same question, according to fiel it was:

tier of potential: XNXXXX

where N is:
0 for rare secondary
1 for rare primary (epic secondary)
2 for epic primary (unique secondary)
3 for unique primary (legendary secondary)
4 for legendary primary

XX0XXX means regular potential
XX1XXX are decent skills
XX2XXX means additional potential

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - ChosenFruit - 2013-08-04

=o neat-o!

I plan to use this often =3 I've gone back to playing my Battle Mage, and I'd like to replace the 8th anniversary set w/ a well-scrolled and decent-potential'd level 110 set~
Now I can take a good look at what my best options are! =3

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - Ivangold - 2013-08-04

wait but this is a new pot?how about the dojo glove?can someone explain to me?

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - Marksman Bryan - 2013-08-04

ShinkuDragon Wrote:tier of potential: XNXXXX

where N is:
0 for rare secondary
1 for rare primary (epic secondary)
2 for epic primary (unique secondary)
3 for unique primary (legendary secondary)
4 for legendary primary

so if X4XXXX is legendary, and dojo is X6XXXX...
FIFTH TIER INBOUND ./falsehype

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - ShinkuDragon - 2013-08-04

Ivangold Wrote:wait but this is a new pot?how about the dojo glove?can someone explain to me?

it's the current potential system we have on gms.

Marksman Bryan Wrote:so if X4XXXX is legendary, and dojo is X6XXXX...
FIFTH TIER INBOUND ./falsehype

well, they certainly left the hole, "just in case" i'm sure Rolleyes

and i DID call fifth tier ages ago, i'm calling it again now, with a red-pinkish border color f3 (same claim as before)

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - Ivangold - 2013-08-04

[quote=ShinkuDragon]it's the current potential system we have on gms.

but what's gonna change?:f6:

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - fodjgngf - 2013-08-04

Does this include nebulite potentials as well?

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - Niernen - 2013-08-04

Marksman Bryan Wrote:so if X4XXXX is legendary, and dojo is X6XXXX...
FIFTH TIER INBOUND ./falsehype

Look at scrolling colors: Blue, Purple, Yellow/gold, Green Red.
Look at potential colors: Blue, Purple, Yellow, Green.

See where Im going? Monocle

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - Ivangold - 2013-08-04

Niernen Wrote:Look at scrolling colors: Blue, Purple, Yellow/gold, Green Red.
Look at potential colors: Blue, Purple, Yellow, Green.

See where Im going?

MANN, WOOOTT Glitter

problably weapons lv121+ may have like 4%(rare) and now is 3% so wooot Glitter

man that's awsome Biggrin

for sure
but wait am i right?:f6:
or it is just like a new type of pot?(i mean unique go to legendary then legendary to the new one)

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - Ivangold - 2013-08-04

Marksman Bryan Wrote:so if X4XXXX is legendary, and dojo is X6XXXX...
FIFTH TIER INBOUND ./falsehype

idk if i'm right i think dojo is X7XXX

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - ShinkuDragon - 2013-08-04

Ivangold Wrote:idk if i'm right i think dojo is X7XXX

dojo glove is the X6XXXX, it says so in the OP.

Ivangold Wrote:[quote=ShinkuDragon]it's the current potential system we have on gms.

but what's gonna change?:f6:

nothing, the changes already happened, this is what's current.

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - TrueBlitz - 2013-08-04

fodjgngf Wrote:Does this include nebulite potentials as well?

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=54534

[Module] GMS - Potential Pools - ShinkuDragon - 2013-08-05

guess i might as well, [MENTION=2054]Eos[/MENTION]; think this thread could go in references?