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Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - LiquidSwing - 2013-01-15

Seriously, title. I don't have the best LUK gear, but jesus, my phantom is 160. My dual blade is lvl 145 and does double, literally, double my phantom's damage.

Am I doing it wrong? Im rocking haste, Mental Clarity, Holy Symbol(if needed, or Combo if not), and maxed SE for my steal skills. Do I need to steal a good attack skill for 4th job? All my skills are maxed(except for tempest and Penombre). Right now im using Mille Aiguilles as my main attacking skill.

So what am I doing wrong guys? This feels terrible, I loved playing my phantom a long time ago, but this is depressing Sad

Also, what nerfs does "duration and attack reduction may be applied" mean? What specific numbers?

thank you

ps

rip phantoms

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Christian - 2013-01-15

Dat nerf.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - LoveVictim - 2013-01-15

The nerf pretty much fucked them.

I quit mine at 196 almost 197 after that nerf lol

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - LiquidSwing - 2013-01-15

ive heard of these nerfs, but were they really that bad? does anyone have the exact nerf patch notes? i might be able to find it if i knew which patch it was

nvm found it, it was 1.2.164

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I suppose this captain nerf was aimed directly at phantom?
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the captain nerf seems a little overboard....

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - emailbox - 2013-01-15

Well Sairs weren't really nerfed, because their FA (100% chance) got buffed by 30% damage instead. It was primarily to weaken Phantoms.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - aslemn - 2013-01-15

LiquidSwing Wrote:ive heard of these nerfs, but were they really that bad? does anyone have the exact nerf patch notes? i might be able to find it if i knew which patch it was

nvm found it, it was 1.2.164

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I suppose this captain nerf was aimed directly at phantom?
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the captain nerf seems a little overboard....

If I recall correctly; one, if not the worst thing that came with nerf was the reduced damage from attack skills from other classes, where you become unable to do the same damage using the skill as the class that originally has it, but something like 2/3 of the original amount, the same also applies to duration on active skills. Sad

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Evolite - 2013-01-16

After the nerf, cane's attack multiplyer is not applied to stolen attacks, which caused stolen attacks to do a lot less damage than before.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - LegendGospel - 2013-01-16

inb4 buff to Phantom beyond Dual Blades
inb4 nerf to newer classes

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Nion - 2013-01-16

All I know is that Phantom had their stolen buff duration cut in half.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Thorr - 2013-01-16

Nion Wrote:All I know is that Phantom had their stolen buff duration cut in half.

60% to be precise. Just for informational purposes -

Stolen Buffs - 100% Effect, but 60% duration.
Stolen Attacks - 60% damage

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - The Anonymous - 2013-01-16

LiquidSwing Wrote:ive heard of these nerfs, but were they really that bad? does anyone have the exact nerf patch notes? i might be able to find it if i knew which patch it was

nvm found it, it was 1.2.164

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I suppose this captain nerf was aimed directly at phantom?
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the captain nerf seems a little overboard....

What what's a "Captain" job in Maplestory? Never heard of that.

Also, are Phantoms actually gonna get a rebuff at some point soon? I hate it when they have to HS every 90 seconds don't you ?

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Kirov - 2013-01-16

The Anonymous Wrote:What what's a "Captain" job in Maplestory? Never heard of that.

A captain and a Corsair are the same thing, just like a Viper and a Buccaneer are. Different versions have different job names. Well basically everyone has the same job names and GMS just changes them willy nilly.

I thought people were exaggerating when the Phantom nerf hit KMS. Stuff like the Aria Amour nerf doesn't really bother me but what they did to stolen skills was horrible. It really took the fun out of the class for me, which is a shame because I really enjoyed playing Phantom. I never touch mine now.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Curtiss - 2013-01-16

Kirov Wrote:A captain and a Corsair are the same thing, just like a Viper and a Buccaneer are. Different versions have different job names. Well basically everyone has the same job names and GMS just changes them willy nilly.

I thought people were exaggerating when the Phantom nerf hit KMS. Stuff like the Aria Amour nerf doesn't really bother me but what they did to stolen skills was horrible. It really took the fun out of the class for me, which is a shame because I really enjoyed playing Phantom. I never touch mine now.

That makes me worried as I really don't want to play another class. Weak is one thing seeing that nearly all of my favourites are ranked that way but weak, inconvenienced and hassled for HS/insert buff name is ridiculous.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - LegendGospel - 2013-01-20

Just keep hoping.
If Buccs got buffed, eventually Phantoms will get buffed again.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - ¬Rob - 2013-01-21

Curtiss Wrote:That makes me worried as I really don't want to play another class. Weak is one thing seeing that nearly all of my favourites are ranked that way but weak, inconvenienced and hassled for HS/insert buff name is ridiculous.
If it helps, the nerfs didn't bother me at all. I preferred Aiguilles over RF anyway, and effectiveness stayed 100% for buffs, so I just got SE.
In any case, I mained it because I love the class, not the numbers it s'hits out.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Curtiss - 2013-01-21

¬Rob Wrote:If it helps, the nerfs didn't bother me at all. I preferred Aiguilles over RF anyway, and effectiveness stayed 100% for buffs, so I just got SE.
In any case, I mained it because I love the class, not the numbers it s'hits out.

I don't think it's going to matter to me soon enough, but man, buff duration is already a bit of an annoyance to me at this point.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Killmeplsok - 2013-01-21

The Anonymous Wrote:What what's a "Captain" job in Maplestory? Never heard of that.

Also, are Phantoms actually gonna get a rebuff at some point soon? I hate it when they have to HS every 90 seconds don't you ?

Captain has been there in MapleStory since 6 years ago.

Just a clearer view for you:
[Image: maple0008r.jpg]

Anyway, back to topic, I hate what they did to stolen skills, no comment to attacking skills as I don't use em, but the short-timed buff are annoying.

I'm fine with other nerf though.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - The Anonymous - 2013-01-24

Killmeplsok Wrote:Captain has been there in MapleStory since 6 years ago.

Just a clearer view for you:
[Image: maple0008r.jpg]

Anyway, back to topic, I hate what they did to stolen skills, no comment to attacking skills as I don't use em, but the short-timed buff are annoying.

I'm fine with other nerf though.
Where is this jester map? I've never seen this place before.

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - ultimax21 - 2013-01-24

The Anonymous Wrote:Where is this jester map? I've never seen this place before.

MSea, if you didn't notice his server doesn't even match ours.

edit: See below

Why is my phantom so flippin' weak? - Killmeplsok - 2013-01-24

The Anonymous Wrote:Where is this jester map? I've never seen this place before.

Veracent region.

Remember EMS Dark Kiddy Kiddy Raid? We got it this patch as well.

An awesome area.