Chew Wrote:*Sorry bout the quote
At least he's just a preacher, not a politician...

KhainiWest Wrote:Watch the entire video

Locked Wrote:I was pretty impressed when I saw this two days ago.

ImagineAll Wrote:Well aren't you cool for seeing it two days ago.

SaptaZapta Wrote:Hm. Brilliant twist and all, but the speech is so logically inconsistent.

Going to put this in a spoiler for those who read replies before watching the video:

 Spoiler

His message boils down to "We all know gay rights will pass in the end, so let's not make ourselves look bad by resisting them now."

Nothing about right or wrong or God's will, just "the right side of history." Very strange stance for a clergyman to take, IMHO.

Quote:The killing of homosexuals is condoned and encouraged in the wonderful laws of Leviticus. Leviticus 20:13 clearly states "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Well there you have it, Homosexuality is wrong, and they must pay the ultimate price... IN THE NAME OF GOD!!!

What else shouldn't people do?

Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't have a variety of crops on the same field. (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)

Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that?

If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10). I wonder if Dr. Laura would like that one to be enforced?

If a man sleeps with his father's wife... both him and his father's wife is to be put to death. (Leviticus 20:11)

If a man sleeps with his wife and her mother they are all to be burnt to death. (Leviticus 20:14)

If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed. (Leviticus 20:15-16). I guess you should kill the animal since they were willing participants. Are they crazy?

If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)

Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27)

If a priest's daughter is a whore, she is to be burnt at the stake. (Leviticus 21:9)

People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)

Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)

One must wonder why there are so many people wanting to site Leviticus for gay bashing, but they never mention these rules. How strange. It is common that a Christian will blow off these old rules with "Jesus came to change the laws, so these are outmoded, and we don't need them", but throughout Leviticus God states that these laws are to be followed forever. Hmmm.

The Ten Commandments

The Ten Commandments are very famous examples of Biblical rules, but it can be amazing how few people know what's included in them. Let's recap.

1. You are to have no other gods before God

2. You are not to make any graven images.

3. Don't use the Lord's name in vain

4. Keep the Sabbath holy

5. Honor your mother and father

6. Do not kill

7. Do not commit adultery.

8. Don't steal

9. Don't bear false witness.

10. Don't covet the neighbor's house.

Here are some things you may not know were included within the commandments.

People seem to think the second commandment says you aren't supposed to make a graven image of God, and that's it. But you are not to make any graven images of anything in heaven, in the earth, or in the water. This would include no graven images of fish, moles, worms, birds, shrimp, ants, and all sorts of things. One must wonder why God was so worried about these things that he felt the need to put these ahead of murder and stealing.

In the third commandment, people think that means we shouldn't work, but just go to church on the Sabbath. But NOBODY is to do any work, including your employees, your cattle, nor anyone who is visiting you.

While you are not coveting your neighbor's house, also refrain from coveting other things he owns, like his wife, ass, and ox.

The Often Overlooked Rules in Deuteronomy

The book Deuteronomy also lays some laws down, but nobody ever mentions them, but why not take a look at those laws also?

Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)

Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)

This shows you that it really is scary that people want to make the Bible part of the law. Not to mention it sheds light on why Christians are so overly oppressive to those who don't share their belief. Sick, sick, sick. It can also be said that any person who uses the Bible to justify beating a homosexual, is a hypocrite if he doesn't adhere to all of these laws.

ShinkuDragon Wrote:i saw his message more like "we hunted black people in the name of god, and we were wrong, now we're doing the same to gay people."

ShinkuDragon Wrote:i saw his message more like "we hunted black people in the name of god, and we were wrong, now we're doing the same to gay people.

also, i love this comment, it's my favorite comment, i was hoping it appeared here: (wall of text)

ShinkuDragon Wrote:i saw his message more like "we hunted black people in the name of god, and we were wrong, now we're doing the same to gay people.

also, i love this comment, it's my favorite comment, i was hoping it appeared here:

Ryosuke Wrote:I once pointed out some of those scriptures to some of my, die hard Christian friends. It was interesting to see them who are usually so outspoken, be hushed so quickly..

SaptaZapta Wrote:What proof does he give that hunting black people was wrong?