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Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Devil - 2012-07-31
Does anyone know how fast it hits per second? I can't find it anywhere.
Is it like 120ms like Hurricane/Rapid Fire?
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Locked - 2012-07-31
180ms
10 second duration.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Question - 2012-07-31
Locked Wrote:180ms
10 second duration.
how do you know?
what about the battlemage new twister spin speed? is it 180 ms also?
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Locked - 2012-07-31
Question Wrote:how do you know?
what about the battlemage new twister spin speed? is it 180 ms also?
Because I know.
Yeah I'm assuming it's 180ms too.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Question - 2012-07-31
Locked Wrote:Because I know.
Yeah I'm assuming it's 180ms too.
because u know? source? i need prove or i dont believe u .....
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - iananderson - 2012-07-31
Question Wrote:because u know? source? i need prove or i dont believe u .....
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=51548
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Question - 2012-07-31
iananderson Wrote:http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=51548
where does it said 180ms? i check tempest extraction it is 540ms and i bet it prepare skill delay ... but nothing show where tempest is 180 ms per attack o.0 can you show me more exact
and not the whole thread...
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Locked - 2012-07-31
Question Wrote:because u know? source? i need prove or i dont believe u .....
If you don't believe JoeTang or I, you're gonna have a bad time here.
It was testing Joe and I did for Phantom in kMS.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Question - 2012-07-31
Locked Wrote:If you don't believe JoeTang or I, you're gonna have a bad time here.
It was testing Joe and I did for Phantom in kMS.
i do believe him but... where is the data that show it 180 ms?
or you just test by frame by frame?
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Aflac - 2012-07-31
Locked Wrote:If you don't believe JoeTang or I, you're gonna have a bad time here.
It was testing Joe and I did for Phantom in kMS.
It would be really nice if there was some kind of math or evidence for these skill delays. I haven't found a solid source for the skill delays of mille aiguilles or even rapid fire/hurricane in any of the extractions, I've just been going by word-of-mouth. Not saying that I don't believe you, but numbers are always better than going on faith.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Locked - 2012-07-31
Question Wrote:i do believe him but... where is the data that show it 180 ms?
or you just test by frame by frame?
Aflac Wrote:It would be really nice if there was some kind of math or evidence for these skill delays. I haven't found a solid source for the skill delays of mille aiguilles or even rapid fire/hurricane in any of the extractions, I've just been going by word-of-mouth. Not saying that I don't believe you, but numbers are always better than going on faith.
Take a video.
Record it at 90fps.
Then look at the attacks frame by frame.
The delays fiel uses are part of 00002000.img so they're not always accurate in game and that's why testing has to be done for skills that portray that delay.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Devil - 2012-07-31
Edit: NVM, it seemed like it did other DPS then it does today, haha
180ms seems to be correct indeed! Tnx for the info!
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Locked - 2012-07-31
Devil Wrote:180ms is not possible, Tempest does more -way- more DPS then Twilight
Tempest (lvl1 atm) => 1000/180 * 225% = 1250%
Carte Noire (100% crit) => 1000/180 * 220% = 1222%
Total => 2472%
Twilight (lvl1 atm) => 1000/810 * 1515 = 1870%
Carte Noire (100% crit) => 1000/810 * 220% = 272%
Total => 2142%
In-game, Tempest does more DPS by a factor of +/- 2x then Twilight... There has to be another delay somehow or something that went wrong with the coding...
checking again...
Seriously?
It's called an ending delay that a majority of skills have. Way to compare.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Question - 2012-07-31
Does booster work on tempest?
which is faster battlemage twister speed or phantom tempest
are they both the same?
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-07-31
interesting, something i'll have to make sure someone checks later, but here.
http://maplearchive.com/skill.php?id=24121005
it states it as 120 MS, considering that looking for hurricane shows no frames, it's possible he's wrong.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Locked - 2012-07-31
ShinkuDragon Wrote:interesting, something i'll have to make sure someone checks later, but here.
http://maplearchive.com/skill.php?id=24121005
it states it as 120 MS, considering that looking for hurricane shows no frames, it's possible he's wrong.
If I have to explain this one more time I will kill you.
Scroll up.
HTtempest is found in 00002000.img which is for skill activation. This is probably the delay to activate the skill not the attacks.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Aflac - 2012-07-31
ShinkuDragon Wrote:interesting, something i'll have to make sure someone checks later, but here.
http://maplearchive.com/skill.php?id=24121005
it states it as 120 MS, considering that looking for hurricane shows no frames, it's possible he's wrong.
I thought MapleArchive pulled directly from the data.
Pulling up Mille Aiguilles shows HTultimateDrive as 120ms as well, so it's odd that they would have a start-up delay time noted for Tempest and Mille but not for Hurricane/Rapid Fire.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-07-31
Locked Wrote:If I have to explain this one more time I will kill you.
Scroll up.
HTtempest is found in 00002000.img which is for skill activation. This is probably the delay to activate the skill not the attacks.
i meant the maplearchive owner, you'd have been better not explaining, i read my threads f3
@aflac: it does, but it needs to know what to pull, so pulling info and tagging it wrong can happen.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - Locked - 2012-07-31
ShinkuDragon Wrote:i meant the maplearchive owner, you'd have been better not explaining, i read my threads f3
If it lists 120ms for Ult Drive then that's weird too. I have 00002000.img on me but this thread is making me slack on translations.
120ms start up delay for ult drive is too low and 120ms ult drive is too fast. It's conflicting.
Hit's per second of Phantom's Tempest? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-07-31
again, i have no clue, i'll bring it to his attention. and you two can talk about it.