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Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - MuscleWizard - 2012-06-30
Describe the problem. Be as specific as possible!:
CAST SELF HASTE
HAVE MAX DARK SIGHT / ADVANCED DARK SIGHT
WHEN ADVANCED DARK SIGHT ACTIVATES WHEN YOU GET HIT OR USE CHAINS OF HELL YOU LOSE THE SPEED FROM SELF HASTE
which is annoying as hell because since dark sight has -10 speed, when it activates you lose whatever speed self haste or any other speed buff gives you
and the only way to get the speed back is to recast self haste because the speed you had from self haste doesn't come back when dark sight goes away.
so basically movement speed wise you're screwed while training because you're going to get hit a lot unless you have max avoid or something.
at least it doesn't cancel the jump bonus.
and knowing nexon, this will never get fixed.
If you need me, I'll be hiding under my own personal angry dome.
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Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - VerrKol - 2012-06-30
Hate to break it to you, but pretty sure this is Working as Intended.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - MuscleWizard - 2012-06-30
VerrKol Wrote:Hate to break it to you, but pretty sure this is Working as Intended.
working as intended?
dude
no
no this is not working as intended
you lose all the speed from haste at a 49% rate whenever you get hit and dark sight triggers, until you recast self haste
so basically dual blades have to train without the speed from haste because of this, where before the revamp, this did not happen.
this most definitely is not working as intended.
before the revamp, max dark sight had no speed penalty
now it does, so it cancels ALL the speed from haste whenever it activates.
remember, advanced dark sight makes dark sight trigger when you get hit.
It makes just walking around an absolute pain.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - nRxUs - 2012-06-30
MuscleWizard Wrote:working as intended?
dude
no
no this is not working as intended
you lose all the speed from haste at a 49% rate whenever you get hit and dark sight triggers, until you recast self haste
so basically dual blades have to train without the speed from haste because of this, where before the revamp, this did not happen.
this most definitely is not working as intended.
before the revamp, max dark sight had no speed penalty
now it does, so it cancels ALL the speed from haste whenever it activates.
remember, advanced dark sight makes dark sight trigger when you get hit.
It makes just walking around an absolute pain.
Might not be working as you want but it is working as intended, a.k.a. is not a bug.
Also Dark Sight doesn't have a "speed penalty" it has a speed bonus of +10 which cancels out the Speed Bonus from Haste and then when you can decast Dark Sight you lose the +10 from Dark Sight and Haste doesn't come back. It is not a bug, just an annoying feature.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Blake - 2012-06-30
As far as I know, no, it's not supposed to be working that way. If it is, that is a horrible new feature and it's going to be quite a pain to deal with on my DB.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Dark Link - 2012-06-30
Since when is having a new speed buff override an old speed buff "Not working as intended"? It's been like that for years.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - MuscleWizard - 2012-06-30
Dark Link Wrote:Since when is having a new speed buff override an old speed buff "Not working as intended"? It's been like that for years.The fact that the speed from haste doesn't come back is a huge mobility nerf.
Before the update, dark sight didn't have the +10 speed, so this problem didn't exist.
Hopefully it won't be like this when the db revamp hits.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Imitazion - 2012-06-30
MuscleWizard Wrote:The fact that the speed from haste doesn't come back is a huge mobility nerf.so this is about recasting haste after dark sight ends?
Before the update, dark sight didn't have the +10 speed, so this problem didn't exist.
Hopefully it won't be like this when the db revamp hits.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Blake - 2012-06-30
Imitazion Wrote:so this is about recasting haste after dark sight ends?
It's about it slowing us down and having to recast it as soon as it is activated. It activates very frequently when we get hit by monsters.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Dark Link - 2012-06-30
MuscleWizard Wrote:
The fact that the speed from haste doesn't come back is a huge mobility nerf.
Before the update, dark sight didn't have the +10 speed, so this problem didn't exist.
Hopefully it won't be like this when the db revamp hits.
So how is this a bug again? This is how speed buffs have worked for YEARS.
This isn't a bug, this is working as intended.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Blake - 2012-06-30
Dark Link Wrote:So how is this a bug again? This is how speed buffs have worked for YEARS.
This isn't a bug, this is working as intended.
Are you being dense? It's essentially a downgrade for what was supposed to be an upgrade for thieves.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Imitazion - 2012-06-30
Blake Wrote:It's about it slowing us down and having to recast it as soon as it is activated. It activates very frequently when we get hit by monsters.HT's dispel slows me down too, but I choose to recast my skills.
or have my pets do it for me
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Dark Link - 2012-06-30
Blake Wrote:Are you being dense? It's essentially a downgrade for what was supposed to be an upgrade for thieves.
It doesn't matter. It's working as intended. You guys can complain all you want, but this is how the system has worked FOR YEARS.
You guys are crying over nothing.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Blake - 2012-06-30
Dark Link Wrote:It doesn't matter. It's working as intended. You guys can complain all you want, but this is how the system has worked FOR YEARS.
You guys are crying over nothing.
Not crying. It doesn't really affect me because of all the excess speed on my gear. I only noticed because some of my equips weren't on at the time. And yes, we know it's worked like this. But the "upgrade" is essentially an annoying downgrade.
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - homeworksucks - 2012-07-01
basically an annoying downgrade, not a bug
Self Haste + Dark Sight (Dual Blade) = broken as hell. - Forte - 2012-07-02
It's irritating with Assassinate.