yo72 Wrote:So your fix to charm is to make it necessary only to lv to lv 10 instead of 30, instead of making it easier to obtain but higher lv for pocket slot

PirateIzzy Wrote:Honestly, bonuses should be every level, not every 5 levels. Instead of having level 99 willpower and +1900 HP, make it +1980 HP, since the bonus from 95-99 is the same.

Sorien Wrote:[Bonuses:.
- +% Scroll Success rate (all scrolls). Determined as [(Diligence level) * (0.1)].
-% Destruction Chance (all scrolls). Determined as [(Diligence level) * (0.2)].
- % Chance items will come with potential (Crafted). Determined as [(Diligence level)].

CrazyForDex Wrote:Are you sure about that one? The ig trait window doesn't show anything like that for diligence.

CrazyForDex Wrote:Are you sure about that one? The ig trait window doesn't show anything like that for diligence.

CrazyForDex Wrote:Are you sure about that one? The ig trait window doesn't show anything like that for diligence.

Sorien Wrote:The Trait System is rather poorly designed in my opinion. It was a neat idea, but the way they worked in the bonuses just doesn't make any sense to me. Not to mention the fact that Charm and Insight do absolutely nothing of use for players who get them past 30 (well, insight is okay if it can be gotten up to 100 I guess).

Anyway, here's how I think it should work.

First and foremost, all traits should have their max EXP per day raised to 1500.
Secondly, items that give trait EXP should no longer count toward the daily limit.
Finally, trait bonuses should be determined every level, not every 5.

I'm fine with all those.

 Ambition

How to level:
- Killing bosses. EXP given determined as [(Boss level) * (1.5)].

I'd keep the old way to obtain it, though. Or else, it can be as easy as killing 10 lv 100 monsters. To get 1.5k. It's already easy, this way it become easiestest.

Bonuses:
- Defense Ignored. Determined as [(Ambition level) * (0.1)].
- EXP loss upon death. Determined as [10 - ((Ambition level) * (0.1))].
- +% Buff Duration (non-cooldown only). Determined as [(Ambition level)].
- +% Defense, Accuracy, & Avoid cap (breaking 10k). Determined as [(Ambition level) * (1.5)].

Looks fine... But the cap feels off... Fits with ambition and insight too, so ok, not bad.

 Empathy

How to level:
- 10 EXP for harvesting herbs.
- Doing quests. EXP given determined as [(Quest level) * (0.8)].

Ah, just what empathy needs, an alternate way to get it. totally agreed. However, I'd put a penalty of 0.5 or something for repeatable quests.

Bonuses:
- Improve max MP. Determined as [(Empathy level) * (50)].
- +% MP regen every 10 seconds. Determined as [(Empathy level) * (0.1)].
- Improve Magic Defense. Determined as [(Empathy level) * (10)].
- +% Status Resistance. Determined as [(Empathy level) * (0.2)].
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Careful! You are making this game breaking if maxed. +10% MP every 10 seconds is like using a jr boogie familiar... Most classes won't use a MP potion ever again. 5k extra MP is maybe a bit too much too, but not excessively. And I'd swap status resistance to willpower, and damage resistance here. Seems to fit a bit more.[/COLOR]

 Insight

How to level:
- 10 EXP for mining ores.
- Revealing Potential. EXP given determined as [(Item Tier) * (10)].

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Bonuses:
- Accuracy Penalty reduction. Determined as [(2) - ((Insight level) * (0.02))].
- +% Dodge Chance. Determined as [(Insight level) * (0.05)].
- Revealing Potential without lenses. Can reveal items with levels equal to or lower than [(Insight level) + (20)].

I'd go with accuracy and avoid entirely. If anything, add both, and nerf those a bit to balance it out. Also, about revealing, I think there should be a quest at a certain level of either character or insight to enable it. Having it from the start feels off. Maybe lv 30, instantly, when you can start tracking your traits.

 Willpower

How to level:
- Completing Party Quests. EXP given determined as [(PQ level) / (4 - Difficulty level)].
- Remaining logged on. EXP given determined as [(# of hours logged on) * (10)].
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Sounds ok with me
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Bonuses:
- Improve max HP. Determined as [(Willpower level) * (50)].
- +% HP regen every 10 seconds. Determined as [(Willpower level) * (0.1)].
- Improve Physical Defense. Determined as [(Willpower level) * (10)].
- +% Damage Resistance. Determined as [(Willpower level) * (0.05)].
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Careful! As with empathy, 10% hp regeneration can be gamebreaking. Paladins WILL be immortal. And yeah, I'd swap damage defense with empathy. It'd be like a balance between hp and mp, swapping only the abstract part. Like Ying Yang, balance them out to get the full benefits.[/COLOR]

 Diligence

How to level:
- Crafting items.
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Yup
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Bonuses:.
- +% Scroll Success rate (all scrolls). Determined as [(Diligence level) * (0.1)].
- -% Destruction Chance (all scrolls). Determined as [(Diligence level) * (0.2)].
- % Chance items will come with potential (Crafted). Determined as [(Diligence level)].

Now that sounds nice. But there's one little small problem. Alchemy doesn't have anything rewarding. Maybe make it have a [Dilligence level] chance of spending only half the materials (rounded low if even numbers) for alchemy. Or to craft x1.5 arrows (those only use one material, rounded down is 0 :p).

 Charm

How to level:
- Acquire Fame. Determined as [(Fame) * (5)].

If nothing else is added, sure, make fame count more.

Bonuses:.
- +% Summon Duration. Determined as [(Charm level)].
- +% Item drop rate. Determined as [(Charm level) * (0.5)].
- +% Chance items will come with potential (Dropped). Determined as [(Charm level) * (0.3)].

The only problem I see with this change, is that not all classes would benefit of this. Not everyone has a summon. It totally makes sense though. The other two are fabulous. Ah, and keep the lv 30 pocket unlocking. Feels challenging.

Alloy Wrote:Answers in red.

Raul Wrote:- % Chance items will come with potential (Crafted). Determined as [(Diligence level)].
????

Alloy Wrote:Say you craft a Bunny Sassacre Fedora. The chances of it being unidentified are the same as your dilligence level. So level 78 dilligence will net you 75% chance for it.

Alloy Wrote:Say you craft a Bunny Sassacre Fedora. The chances of it being unidentified are the same as your dilligence level. So level 78 dilligence will net you 78% chance for it.

PirateIzzy Wrote:78% since he suggested a bonus per level instead of per 5 levels.

CrazyForDex Wrote:O_O So I have lvl 100 diligence. By that logic, 100% of the items I craft will come with a hidden potential? That is way too broken to even be considered.

Alloy Wrote:It's not like potentials are usually good or anything. This would make things even with cubes, if anything. And only on clean stuff.

CrazyForDex Wrote:Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE this system to exist, but it would pretty much break the potential cash cow in Nexon's mind. Sure you usually do not get good potentials, but at a 100% rate, you could just sit there all day whoring tons of unique and epic items. Sure this would in turn lower the prices of all items that aren't legendary, but this is both good and bad. It would destory most of the economy while at the same time it would help players reach higher levels of funding by much cheaper means. Like I said, such a system cannot exist if Nexon wants to keep making "reasonable" revenue.

Alloy Wrote:Try crafting lv 80 stuff like that. Getting those materials aren't that easy.