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Empress summons before half HP. - Imitazion - 2012-01-29
In KMS, Empress summons instructors at a random time, rather than around half HP now, which makes it a lot easier to attain equips than before.
I will provide more about it next time I go on a run.
until then, anticipate and discuss? I guess.
Empress summons before half HP. - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-01-29
It's random as hell and she does it whenever she feels like it. Only guaranteed thing is she seems to 100% summon after her HP is brought to half.
Empress summons before half HP. - Imitazion - 2012-01-29
A party I was with finished all summons before 75% HP or something like that.
And one of my friends, who empressed since the beginning, said that in KMS, she would summon the first one around 50%, every time.
Empress summons before half HP. - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-01-29
Imitazion Wrote:A party I was with finished all summons before 75% HP or something like that.
And one of my friends, who empressed since the beginning, said that in KMS, she would summon the first one around 50%, every time.
We've had that happen to, but it just happens randomly. Like i said, when you bring her to 50%~, then she summons 100% of the time "as soon as she can". She can summon before that but there's no guaranteed way to make her do that and it just happens randomly.
Empress summons before half HP. - ultimax21 - 2012-01-29
You also missed that her damage reflect can hit anyone, everyone, and randomly even if you attacked or didn't hit her with her reflect on (only happens at all if you attack her with it on). Started happening only after the "fix to boss aggros." One person can attack empress and your entire party is dead or even 2 parties from just 1 screw up. However, perhaps this issue should be another thread since this is only concerning summoning.
Empress summons before half HP. - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-01-29
ultimax21 Wrote:You also missed that her damage reflect can hit anyone, everyone, and randomly even if you attacked or didn't hit her with her reflect on (only happens at all if you attack her with it on). Started happening only after the "fix to boss aggros." One person can attack empress and your entire party is dead or even 2 parties from just 1 screw up. However, perhaps this issue should be another thread since this is only concerning summoning.
This is completely unrelated so it should have its own thread. In addition, her DR has been doing that since day 1 of GMS when we got her. I don't know if other versions are like that or if her DR is special.
Empress summons before half HP. - happylight - 2012-01-29
I'm pretty sure that is a separate attack of hers that has nothing to do with DR. It does like 50+k damage.
Empress summons before half HP. - ShinkuDragon - 2012-01-29
happylight Wrote:I'm pretty sure that is a separate attack of hers that has nothing to do with DR. It does like 50+k damage.
i can tell you, it's her DR, her DR is the only one that does this AFAIK
Empress summons before half HP. - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-01-29
ShinkuDragon Wrote:i can tell you, it's her DR, her DR is the only one that does this AFAIK
This is correct. You hit her when she's on damage and the players affected can be anyone and any number on the map (probably a cap of 6 people max but doesn't really matter)
Empress summons before half HP. - Marksman Bryan - 2012-01-29
For us, it always seemed to be the bishops that got hit with the 50k
(many lulz were had)
Empress summons before half HP. - ShinkuDragon - 2012-01-29
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:This is correct. You hit her when she's on damage and the players affected can be anyone and any number on the map (probably a cap of 6 people max but doesn't really matter)i haven't had the chance to experiment (mainly because nobody wants to die) but i think it's 1 attack = 1 death, otherwise impale and such would be horrible.
Marksman Bryan Wrote:For us, it always seemed to be the bishops that got hit with the 50kdon't remind me, in my experience first to get reflected is the darned mages. and if there's a bishop, like 150% chance of it dying first.
(many lulz were had)
is there any other boss with a special "damage reflect" skill? i know mu gong has 2 reflects instead of 1, but are there any others?
Empress summons before half HP. - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-01-30
I heard cht has a magic DR but i only heard it once. I don't think it's true though.
Empress summons before half HP. - HellenzSin - 2012-01-30
ShinkuDragon Wrote:i haven't had the chance to experiment (mainly because nobody wants to die) but i think it's 1 attack = 1 death, otherwise impale and such would be horrible.
don't remind me, in my experience first to get reflected is the darned mages. and if there's a bishop, like 150% chance of it dying first.
is there any other boss with a special "damage reflect" skill? i know mu gong has 2 reflects instead of 1, but are there any others?
Left hawk statue at PB if I remember correctly. Brb confirming.
Confirmed with this http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=42430 .
Empress summons before half HP. - MoldyBunny - 2012-01-30
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:I heard cht has a magic DR but i only heard it once. I don't think it's true though.
right head has magic attack DR, left has physical attack DR
Empress summons before half HP. - ShinkuDragon - 2012-01-30
MoldyBunny Wrote:right head has magic attack DR, left has physical attack DR
Quote:Physical damage reflection for 7 seconds with 5000 ~ 5000 damage.
HP Limit - 60%
Interval - 60 seconds
yup, that's hilariously weak though. by today's standards.
thanks for reminding me of that thread, L>update to it D: maybe when akyrum comes.
Empress summons before half HP. - Netto - 2012-01-30
Marksman Bryan Wrote:For us, it always seemed to be the bishops that got hit with the 50k
(many lulz were had)
Stop it stop it! I don't want to remember ;-;
YOU GUYS OWE ME WHEELS AND EXP. TOO YOU JERKS!
Empress summons before half HP. - moore4me - 2012-01-30
Back when Empress first came out, and before all the hackers started in on her, the group I led in Khaini went with the strategy of trying not to touching Empress at all except for a few wacks. This worked fine for us for many many runs, and saved on wheels for the group. I think it was a patch in Nov. where GMS made it so she HAD to be damaged more than 50% before she would summon the 5 at once. That change and the influx of people hacking and driving down Empress Gear prices made it so it was not worth us going in and expending so many wheels.