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Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - cgy0509 - 2011-11-24
I from Maplesea ..May I ask your questions about AFA of hero? I really very confuse about it , many forum just giving different answers or just useless answer about no animation time or blah blah blah,so I cant find out the true mechanicsm of it ,I dont really know how final attack works . Hope I can get the answer here
If i using Brave slash now , and triggered AFA then my damage is
1) (300%x3 )+ 250% +250% or
2) (300%x3 )+(300%x2.5) +(300%x2.5) or
3) (300%x3) + (300% +250%) +(300%+250%)
and what skills does AFA will triggered? Is Panic and Coma works with AFA?
If AFA if follow equation 2) or 3) which based on your last attack damage , if the my last damage that used to triggered AFA is a critical damage , will it calculated based on the critical damage or a purely new damage? And AFAwill triggered a critical damage?
If I'm using Brave Slash which attack count were 4mobs ,then how AFA works? Once triggered AFA , it will affected
1)1mob
2)4mobs in the same time
3)4mobs having 60% rate to triggered AFA respectively ?
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - MuscleWizard - 2011-11-24
panic/coma doesnt trigger AFA if i remember correctly
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - valhala556 - 2011-11-26
cgy0509 Wrote:I from Maplesea ..May I ask your questions about AFA of hero? I really very confuse about it , many forum just giving different answers or just useless answer about no animation time or blah blah blah,so I cant find out the true mechanicsm of it ,I dont really know how final attack works . Hope I can get the answer here
If i using Brave slash now , and triggered AFA then my damage is
1) (300%x3 )+ 250% +250% or
2) (300%x3 )+(300%x2.5) +(300%x2.5) or
3) (300%x3) + (300% +250%) +(300%+250%)
and what skills does AFA will triggered? Is Panic and Coma works with AFA?
If AFA if follow equation 2) or 3) which based on your last attack damage , if the my last damage that used to triggered AFA is a critical damage , will it calculated based on the critical damage or a purely new damage? And AFAwill triggered a critical damage?
If I'm using Brave Slash which attack count were 4mobs ,then how AFA works? Once triggered AFA , it will affected
1)1mob
2)4mobs in the same time
3)4mobs having 60% rate to triggered AFA respectively ?
for your first question its the first one. it does 250% twice. And coma and panic trigger AFA its just that AFA no longer counts as a hit to charge orbs. and AFA can be a critical.
And AFA attacks only 1 mob unless ur using slash blast.
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - cgy0509 - 2011-11-27
Anyone can support his answer? >.< ..coz I heard most is say panic and coma cant trigger AFA ..i also confuse
Then means even I used panic with 1040% it also will just trigger an extra attack with 250%? (seems weird) . .
too bad then if i use brave slash to 4mobs only 1mob will trigger AFA ..is this mechanic work same to bowman and aran as well? Aran usually have splash damage right?
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-11-27
it is like that for dark knight FA, just adding that. impale hits 6 monsters, regular FA hits only one.
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - valhala556 - 2011-11-27
cgy0509 Wrote:Anyone can support his answer? >.< ..coz I heard most is say panic and coma cant trigger AFA ..i also confuse
Then means even I used panic with 1040% it also will just trigger an extra attack with 250%? (seems weird) . .
too bad then if i use brave slash to 4mobs only 1mob will trigger AFA ..is this mechanic work same to bowman and aran as well? Aran usually have splash damage right?
ok well last i checked FA activites so i assumed afa does. but i know they dont charge. why are you wanting to know so bad?
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - cgy0509 - 2011-11-27
Thanks alot ya valhala556 and shinkudragon =D , it's help me solve my doubt , u two come from KMS?
Because I'm playing hero in maplesea ..and I always keep on eye that what KMS latest change, especially warrior ,and also especially hero as well =)
Since Jump or Legend update ( release Demon Slayer ) ,I will subconsiously to keep compare other warrior to hero , and want to know is it nerf hard and become the worst dpm among warrior , and other reasons is my friends were playing Drk and Pala as well , when a new patch in KMS , we will start arguing whose jobs have been imba.
eg..
1) I always chaim that my pala friend is imba when he got so many imba defense skill just come with the damage output that really just slightly slightly low to hero , I always feel unfair cause heo suppose to be offensive class since nexon nerf his defensive skill much
2)My Drks friends always say fed-up word with his Drks when every patch release in KMS , n we always say to him Drks not that bad
3)When Demon Slayer release and saw those video hu solo Zakum or Horntail made us feel DS too imba and feel Nexon not balancing among warriors ,DS gain high mobality skill since beginning and a free stance as we need to use 30sp to master it , they also high damage and have rush in 2nd job , and they have achilles that only with 10sp while we need 30sp , 30sp really kind of lots compare to other jobs that come in free.
4)Haha , I always want hero to be a better class compare to other , so I keep calculated the damage output but having problem in how calculate it more accurately as I duno even know some of the mechanicms (really duno how aran is calculated )
Thanks again and again ya xD
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-11-28
i am from GMS, i have never played KMS, as for calculations, joetang's got you covered:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=47548
i don't play a class based on if it's imba or not, i play it because i like it and how it works. i have a soft spot for magical long-ranged warriors.
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - cgy0509 - 2011-11-28
Ya.. i saw that tread before ,I not sure is it accurate or not ,I think just can take it guidance only , I dont think he can calculate all the job so accurate and somehow some skill will vary according to situation and map . I duno how he calculated and method ,mayb find him one day? xD ( coz I tried to calculated hero ,dk and pala already face few problems )
eg..
1)It will affect ADC and enrage output rate when met up the boss with dispel hence you need to recharge it
2)Pala attack based on elements ,some case may that % ,but some cases are not
3)Weapon carried that having different POT effect also affect very much , such as boss damage+30%, PDR ignore ,critical rate
4)w/wo CO ,SE , SI affect different % to differents jobs
Actually same with us .. we play this class coz we love it or some sort of we 'loyalty' to the class we play >.<
Therefore we will having those mind to hope our job better =) , cause sometimes really fed-up and hopeless when saw other imba job released but based from heart will continue play that job as well .
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - valhala556 - 2011-11-28
Joetang's % outputs are pretty accurate id say. And if they aren't at least the comparisons between the class are.
They are only on the skill %s and mastery, so potential stats as well as other classes party buffs are not included.
And I get upset about the new classes too that look overpowered. But then i start playing and I don't really care because i didn't get weaker (and i dont actually see other people much). And once you have a comfortable killing speed of things you begin to care less about whos stronger than you. 5min zakums are like a waste of an eye of fire.
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - Imitazion - 2011-11-28
ADV FA doesn't affect combo
ADV FA hits one monster, no matter what.
ADV FA hits with 250% damage post-buff advantage(combo, [enrage], all that jazz)
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - GoreParadise - 2011-11-28
The chance to proc AFA..
Intrepid Slash procs AFA more than Brandish
3 hits > 2 hits
True or false?
Seriously ,How Advance Final Attack works? - valhala556 - 2011-11-28
GoreParadise Wrote:The chance to proc AFA..
Intrepid Slash procs AFA more than Brandish
3 hits > 2 hits
True or false?
.... whats with all of these specif questions. AFA works how FA has always worked since it existed. 1 skill cast activates AFA. doesnt matter if the skill is 1hit or 10billion hits. 1 skill cast; 1 (A)FA cast.