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18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Printable Version +- Southperry.net (https://www.southperry.net) +-- Forum: Social (https://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=14) +--- Forum: Current Events (https://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=55) +--- Thread: 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay (/showthread.php?tid=44762) |
18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - RideBMX - 2011-07-21 Ars Technica Comment appended to the torrent: Gregory Maxwell Wrote:This archive contains 18,592 scientific publications totaling 33GiB, all from Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society and which should be available to everyone at no cost, but most have previously only been made available at high prices through paywall gatekeepers like JSTOR. 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - xLeviathan - 2011-07-21 Don't most people who need this get it free? I understand the statement for the professor...but still o.o 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Fiel - 2011-07-21 xLeviathan Wrote:Don't most people who need this get it free? I understand the statement for the professor...but still o.o JSTOR isn't free. College campuses buy licenses for all of their computers to have access to the JSTOR system. This price is included with your tuition. Remember, TINSTAAFL. 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Alex123123 - 2011-07-21 ^ That. And there are a bunch of articles that you can't access even when using the campus computers. Can't remember how many times I've seen an article I really need on that site, just to find out I have to pay in order to get a tiny bit of information (with the proper source) I need to make a point in a research paper or whatever. Geez, I'm starting to feel the RAAAAGE. 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - xLeviathan - 2011-07-21 Alex123123 Wrote:^ That. True. I just use the abstract typically and cite it anyway. Unless I had to use whatever was inside. 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - WingZero - 2011-07-21 I just happen to be using JSTOR for an english project. I knew that the service wasn't free, but I never knew how stupid it was. I think it is pretty absurd that you have to pay to view an article for 1 month...... 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Stereo - 2011-07-21 Fiel Wrote:Remember, TINSTAAFL. At the same time, $19/month for a single article is obviously grossly disproportionate to the average cost of storing and distributing a 1.5MB (on average) document. 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Flonne - 2011-07-22 So did he only release articles up to 1923, or did he release everything after that as well? Either way, good for him, this is the kind of data that NEEDS to be leaked to the public; even before the internet became common media, pure knowledge isn't something anyone has a right to withhold from anyone else unless its release is actually detrimental to national progress/safety (i.e, wikileaks could have been a massive security breach, they didn't even read most of it before they posted it all on the site, that's just idiotic). 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Swerve - 2011-07-22 Am I just jaded? Most of the current articles from Science! and ASM are provided upon release. Is there really a need to keep up with the most current scientific experiments without waiting for them to be printed into textbook format? Amusing, yes. Interesting, yes. Informative, yes. This also files under why you pay for a New York Times subscription. Crucial to day to day activities? Not so much. Most of the people who are interested in scientific articles are individuals who are willing to pay and maintain the subscription or who get it free anyway. 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Locked - 2011-07-22 Swerve Wrote:Am I just jaded? Most of the current articles from Science! and ASM are provided upon release. Is there really a need to keep up with the most current scientific experiments without waiting for them to be printed into textbook format? Amusing, yes. Interesting, yes. Informative, yes. This also files under why you pay for a New York Times subscription. Crucial to day to day activities? Not so much. Most of the people who are interested in scientific articles are individuals who are willing to pay and maintain the subscription or who get it free anyway. Information from the 1900s that could very well be invalid and outdated by today's standards shouldn't be bought. Not only that, but from what I've read the journal writers don't even get any money from their journals being sold. So why are we paying for it? Information like this should be free since it isn't compulsory to your learning and is relatively just a complement to it. 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Swerve - 2011-07-22 I feel that the current policy behind science articles are fine. You really have to look at the resources you have that are free and then push your budget around for subscriptions you might be interested in. National Center for Biotechnology Information (ncbi) allows DNA & amino acid searches to be performed on their database using blastn, blastp, blastx, so on and so forth. If you couple this with free trial versions of programs offered by DNASTAR: Seqman, Megalign, EditSeq, then you can more or less download new sequences discovered by professors and update a compendium if for some reason you're really into collecting and analyzing that sort of stuff. I am not arguing for the restriction of scientific knowledge. However I feel that making such information free to access will not benefit the community as much as speculated. Many of these articles deal with advanced bodies of knowledge and digging through the materials & methods will often confuse your Average Joe. In this sense, adding a certain price to the service attracts those who are interested in keeping up with such bodies of information which tends to be an acute minority of people who have specialized in that field. Given the blessings of the internet, it is tempting to argue that all fundamental information should be made public and free on the basis that it can be made public and free and education is always pushed as being a means of advancement for a given society. However even fundamental services such as the New York Times and other newspapers involve a certain cost, despite containing advertisements that should reduce some overhead. I feel that ultimately most academic journals are covered under University coverage policy and the primary people who will keep up to date with such journals are professors and graduate students whose tuition will cover such services. Granted there will always be enthusiasts pining for subscription, but there is a boundary between wanting information and needing it. Awhile ago I summarized a scientific journal here on how they discovered the interaction between BRCA2 and RAD51. Was it interesting? Yes. Amusing? Yes. Educative? Yes. Practical? No, not really. Much like the news, it is good to keep tabs on current events, but honestly unless you're some Wall Street Stock Market investment capitalist or a stock enthusiast, there is only so much information that is needed to get by in life. The extra information that one grasps in these articles is typically punctuated with advanced technology, large theoreticals, and highly focused results that can't exactly be replicated with the chemistry set we may be keeping at home and have pico- nano- micro- sized outcomes that cannot be understood by others. In conclusion, it would be nice to have things free to the public. However the current model is fine the way it is right now. Am doing a run through from time to time of popular science magazines with a free account. Science was dismally disappointing tbqh. Testing ASM, JSTOR, NJEM possibly in the future. Still hold unto the opinions currently stated. 18,592 JSTOR publications released on the Pirate Bay - Corn - 2011-07-22 I could get these easily via my high school, even after I graduate. |