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Yugioh!!!! - Horusmaster - 2008-10-21
here's a puzzle you should solve:
both you and your opponent have 50 LP
you have no cards in your hand, or on your field.
your opponent have the following monsters on the field:
Jinzo, Spell canceller, Patrician of Darkness, sasuke samurai, different dimension dragon (defense position)
And it's your turn, and you only get to draw one card, there's no effect that's going to be activated in the graveyard ( that means cards suck as tree-born frog cannot be in the grave yard).
You ended up winning the game, how do you win?
what card did you draw?
you can make any assumption to what's in the graveyard, what you draw, what the outcome of tossing a coin or throwing a dice is and etc...
edit: congratz to ruust for solving the first part of the puzzle,
2nd part: not only win but clear your opponent's field.
Yugioh!!!! - Beserker101 - 2008-10-21
I can't believe I am going to try and answer but why not... Do they have any spell or trap cards on the field, that could mean my way could work or not. Jinzo #7 and attack directly due to Jinzo #7 effect. Or you could shove all the cards off the table just piss them off enough for them to leave... then you'd win, you'd be a douche but still win.
Yugioh!!!! - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-10-21
Very interesting riddle, I'll solve this whenever I have time. ;] Actually, I figured out a lot judging by your cards and their effects, as far as I'm concerned:
-Exodia Necross (which was one of my 1st options) is not the answer since your Spell Canceller would negate it.
-God cards requires tributes, and you said that I, as the player does not have any monsters, so I can't tribute-summon them. I also can't use Monster Reborn because of that.
-Any monster that has less than 1900 ATT points cannot inflict damage to your Different Dimension Dragon.
-Jinzo negates / destroys traps
-Spell Canceller negates / destroys spells.
Only option left are monster effects, since you said there aren't cards in the field, etc etce tc. So it has to be a 4-star monster with an incredibly powerful effect. ;] Process of elimination, now I just have to figure out the card. I'm guessing it has something to do with the GX gen, if not the the 5-D's gen. Not sure if Synchro-summon is even an option, since I haven't watched much 5-D's to input any opinion on this..
Yugioh!!!! - z0mgc00k13 - 2008-10-21
u draw a couple of pot of greedz
(idc)
Yugioh!!!! - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-10-21
After about 3 or 4 minutes, I figured it out. I know what card you drew.
![[Image: CyberDragonDTP1-EN-DRPR-DT.png]](http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/KGM/CyberDragonDTP1-EN-DRPR-DT.png)
Because of drawing out Cyber Dragon, since I have absolutely no monsters on the field, and you have 1 or more, I can instantly summon it to the field, and it has more than 1,900 ATT points, so therefore, your Different Dimension Dragon's effect is obsolete. This ends.
PS: Also, your Patrician of Darkness may be able to control the target, but my Cyber Dragon still has 100 ATT more than most of your monsters.
EDIT: Oh wait, your Jinzo still has 300 attack more. . . -twitches-.
2nd EDIT: BUT WAIT, you never specified which POSITION your Jinzo was in, so therefore, I win, since common sense being that you COULD have it in Defense Mode to block an attack. =D
3rd and final EDIT: In case my 1st answer was wrong, hehehe.. I just got an idea thanks to one of the top posters!
I, as the player, draws Pot of Greed, in doing so, I drew 2 Cyber Dragon cards. I also fuse them together (IIRC, Cyber Dragons shouldn't require Polymerization to fuse.. I forgot..).
In doing so, I now have Twin Cyber Dragon, with 2800 ATT (and it can attack TWICE per turn)
Yugioh!!!! - z0mgc00k13 - 2008-10-21
how many cards are in the grave yard?
Yugioh!!!! - Beserker101 - 2008-10-21
Kasuhitomi Wrote:After about 3 or 4 minutes, I figured it out. I know what card you drew.
Because of drawing out Cyber Dragon, since I have absolutely no monsters on the field, and you have 1 or more, I can instantly summon it to the field, and it has more than 1,900 ATT points, so therefore, your Different Dimension Dragon's effect is obsolete. This ends.
PS: Also, your Patrician of Darkness may be able to control the target, but my Cyber Dragon still has 100 ATT more than most of your monsters.
EDIT: Oh wait, your Jinzo still has 300 attack more. . . -twitches-.
2nd EDIT: BUT WAIT, you never specified which POSITION your Jinzo was in, so therefore, I win, since common sense being that you COULD have it in Defense Mode to block an attack. =D
3rd and final EDIT: In case my 1st answer was wrong, hehehe.. I just got an idea thanks to one of the top posters!
I, as the player, draws Pot of Greed, in doing so, I drew 2 Cyber Dragon cards. I also fuse them together (IIRC, Cyber Dragons shouldn't require Polymerization to fuse.. I forgot..).
In doing so, I now have Twin Cyber Dragon, with 2800 ATT (and it can attack TWICE per turn)
Cyber twin requires polymerization.
Yugioh!!!! - z0mgc00k13 - 2008-10-21
Beserker101 Wrote:Cyber twin requires polymerization.
wat if she drew another pot?
and hes right
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cyber_Twin_Dragon
Yugioh!!!! - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-10-21
z0mgc00k13 Wrote:wat if she drew another pot?
and hes right
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cyber_Twin_Dragon
Well, in the anime, I think Zane drew Cyber Twin Dragon by sacrifice / fusing his Cyber Dragons in his hand w/o Polymerization.. I forgot, thus what I meant. IRL-Yugioh is different though. <_<
Yugioh!!!! - Horusmaster - 2008-10-21
we're playing by the current advanced format, which means pot of greed is banned.
jinzo #7 won't work because patrician of darkness can change attack target so you sucide.
you can make any assumption to what's in the graveyard, what you draw, what the outcome of tossing a coin or throwing a dice is and etc...
but as stated earlier: "there's no effect that's going to be activated in the graveyard" that means cards suck as tree-born frog cannot be in the grave yard.
opponent doesn't have any spell trap, even if they do jinzo, spell canceller negates them.
there's more than one way to solve this puzzle, but it would be a bonus if you can clear your opponent's field.
Yugioh!!!! - Beserker101 - 2008-10-21
Even if pot of greed wasn't banned, you'd still stand against a spell canceller. No spell cards can be activated. So I still think the attack directly works, or if something deals damage when it comes into play, that would work too... or does Yu-Gi-Oh not do that? Anyways, direct attack monster from Metal Raiders pack still seems to be a plausible idea.
Yugioh!!!! - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-10-21
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Emperor_Dragon_-_Envoy_of_the_End
I just won the game. Light+Dark monster, removed from my graveyard to instantly summon this card. ALSO, I will not use it's ability/effect, since I'd have to sacrifice 1000 LP, which I do not have. I just won. Regardless of which monster I attack, I win.
Yugioh!!!! - z0mgc00k13 - 2008-10-21
u got raging flame sprite?
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Raging_Flame_Sprite
Yugioh!!!! - Horusmaster - 2008-10-21
Kasuhitomi Wrote:http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Emperor_Dragon_-_Envoy_of_the_End
I just won the game. Light+Dark monster, removed from my graveyard to instantly summon this card. ALSO, I will not use it's ability/effect, since I'd have to sacrifice 1000 LP, which I do not have. I just won. Regardless of which monster I attack, I win.
card is banned XD
Yugioh!!!! - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-10-21
Horusmaster Wrote:card is banned XD
Banned, my ass! I won, gtfo, f5
Yugioh!!!! - Horusmaster - 2008-10-21
z0mgc00k13 Wrote:u got raging flame sprite?
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Raging_Flame_Sprite
just like jinzo #7, patrician change the attack target to a monster and you sucide
Yugioh!!!! - Horusmaster - 2008-10-21
Kasuhitomi Wrote:Banned, my ass! I won, gtfo, f5
but it really is banned...
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/advanced_current_new.aspx
Yugioh!!!! - Kawasari Mimoto - 2008-10-21
Horusmaster Wrote:but it really is banned...
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/forbidden/advanced_current_new.aspx
If this was like the anime, without these PETTY RULES, I'd crush you. :[
Yugioh!!!! - z0mgc00k13 - 2008-10-21
u still didnt answer my question
how many monsters are in the graveyards?
Yugioh!!!! - Horusmaster - 2008-10-21
there are countless cards that can solve this, but only 1 card that can not only win but clear opponent's field.
so far no one have gotten it yet...
z0mgc00k13 Wrote:u still didnt answer my question
how many monsters are in the graveyards?
like what i said earlier:
you can make any assumption to what's in the graveyard, what you draw, what the outcome of tossing a coin or throwing a dice is and etc...
but as stated earlier: "there's no effect that's going to be activated in the graveyard" that means cards suck as tree-born frog cannot be in the grave yard.
so yea you can assume that 100+ monsters are in the grave yard if you want or assume there's none.
PS i forgot to mention that different dimension dragon is in def position but w/e