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Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Chameleonic - 2011-07-11
With the Archer Jump update some skills are removed, changed or relocated...so what happens to those Master books? Say you have a Blind and Frostprey/Phoenix mastery books, what to they(and the others) change into after the patch?
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Grey - 2011-07-11
All the books are changed as follows, and yes, this does mean there are multiple versions of certain mastery books. (As in, they're functionally identical, but they have different item IDs)
Dragon Pulse 20/30 -> SE 20/30
Hamstring 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Concentrate 20/30 -> Advanced Final Attack 20/30
Blind 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Pheonix 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Pheonix 20/30
Frostprey 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Frostprey 20/30
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - White - 2011-07-11
iAmFear Wrote:All the books are changed as follows, and yes, this does mean there are multiple versions of certain mastery books. (As in, they're functionally identical, but they have different item IDs)
Dragon Pulse 20/30 -> SE 20/30
Hamstring 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Concentrate 20/30 -> Advanced Final Attack 20/30
Blind 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Pheonix 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Pheonix 20/30
Frostprey 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Frostprey 20/30
A definitive list! Thank you!
*stocks up* I have a couple of each of those, but not enough.
On that note, if I have level 30 concentrate passed, will it automatically be transferred as if I passed AFA30?
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - JoeTang - 2011-07-11
iAmFear Wrote:All the books are changed as follows, and yes, this does mean there are multiple versions of certain mastery books. (As in, they're functionally identical, but they have different item IDs)
Dragon Pulse 20/30 -> SE 20/30
Hamstring 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Concentrate 20/30 -> Advanced Final Attack 20/30
Blind 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Pheonix 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Pheonix 20/30
Frostprey 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Frostprey 20/30
Source please.
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Grey - 2011-07-11
Item.wz
I really only looked at the icon change associated with each ID, though. The books that were Dragon Pulse for example, now have the same icon as SE books.
Looking into it further, the book with the ID 2290054, which is now Dragon Pulse 20, now works for skills 3121002, 3221002, and 33121004, which are the same ones listed under SE20.
Data isn't always right though, so this is just an assumption really.
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - hong999 - 2011-07-16
just curious to ask that,
when old skill is removed, example pheonix has move to 3rd job, and the new skill Spirit Link: Pheonix is new skill at 4th job. Does it mean previously my Pheonix master lv 30, will bring forward to Spirit Link: Pheonix master lv to lv 30 as well? or i need to re-consume the skill book?
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - PeePeeAyeDeeKay - 2011-07-16
hong999 Wrote:just curious to ask that,[SIZE="1"]This is what I go by:
when old skill is removed, example pheonix has move to 3rd job, and the new skill Spirit Link: Pheonix is new skill at 4th job. Does it mean previously my Pheonix master lv 30, will bring forward to Spirit Link: Pheonix master lv to lv 30 as well? or i need to re-consume the skill book?
Same skill ID: mastery cap transfers
Different skill ID: mastery cap DOES NOT transfer
and so far that seems to be the case..[/SIZE]
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Locked - 2011-07-16
PeePeeAyeDeeKay Wrote:[SIZE="1"]This is what I go by:
Same skill ID: mastery cap transfers
Different skill ID: mastery cap DOES NOT transfer
and so far that seems to be the case..[/SIZE]
No.
gMS yes.
kMS no.
gMS is stupid like that.
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - CrazyForDex - 2011-07-16
Man, I'm glad I hung on to those currently useless books
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Blades4hire - 2011-07-16
It didn't happen to chains of hell, so who knows?
EDIT: talking about mastery level, not books changing
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - hong999 - 2011-07-16
ya, would the mastery level still remain?
take GMS chaos as example, after the patch, does Phantom Blow is on the skill tree? or u need go hunt again from mob?
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - PeePeeAyeDeeKay - 2011-07-16
[SIZE="1"]From what I've seen, mastery(book) cap level stays the same if the Skill ID stays the same.
> for example Sudden Raid mastery cap transfers into Blade Fury mastery cap because they use the same ID still.
Chains of Hell doesn't transfer into Phantom Blow, you need to hunt Zakum again since they have different IDs:
Chains of Hell (pre-chaos): 4341005
Phantom Blow: 4341009
...er not sure what you guys mean by mastery cap level on CoH(pre-chaos)/PB. IIRC, once you learn the base book, you already have max mastery cap(level 30) on them..[/SIZE]
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - White - 2011-07-17
I don't know, but I think that falls under a different catagory, that of the skill that isn't learned when you job advance. Not sure if that has any bearing though.
Also, to those that had CoH 30 pre-Chaos, after they got their PB10 book and used it, did they have PB 30?
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - JoeTang - 2011-07-17
White Wrote:I don't know, but I think that falls under a different catagory, that of the skill that isn't learned when you job advance. Not sure if that has any bearing though.
Also, to those that had CoH 30 pre-Chaos, after they got their PB10 book and used it, did they have PB 30?
There is no PB20/30.
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Arrg - 2011-07-17
iAmFear Wrote:All the books are changed as follows, and yes, this does mean there are multiple versions of certain mastery books. (As in, they're functionally identical, but they have different item IDs)If dragon pulse 20/30 -> SE 20/30, then what does SE 20/30 go to...? Does it stay the same...?
Dragon Pulse 20/30 -> SE 20/30
Hamstring 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Concentrate 20/30 -> Advanced Final Attack 20/30
Blind 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Pheonix 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Pheonix 20/30
Frostprey 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Frostprey 20/30
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Locked - 2011-07-17
Arrg Wrote:If dragon pulse 20/30 -> SE 20/30, then what does SE 20/30 go to...? Does it stay the same...?
Yeah.
There are 2 different IDs for SE20/30.
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Blades4hire - 2011-07-17
White Wrote:I don't know, but I think that falls under a different catagory, that of the skill that isn't learned when you job advance. Not sure if that has any bearing though.All points in CoH were taken out and put in the SP pool, so with max CoH, you would get 30 points to spend in 4th job
Also, to those that had CoH 30 pre-Chaos, after they got their PB10 book and used it, did they have PB 30?
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - White - 2011-07-17
I see. So PB10= PB20 and PB30? That doesn't really help what i'm curious about I suppose.
As has been stated above; if I have Phoenix 30, when Jump comes, does that translate into not having to pass the books for Spirit Link: Phoenix 30? I don't know what will happen with the SP that's been allocated into Phoenix, but i'm curious if i'll need to find and pass the books for SL
30 to get it, or will my max mastery level 30 on Phoenix translate over?
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - AngryFungus - 2011-07-23
If I have to hunt for/buy a whole bunch of new mastery books at level 200 with almost all current skills maxed... I'm going to rage so pineappling hard.
Archer Jump Skillbook changes - Myles - 2011-07-23
iAmFear Wrote:All the books are changed as follows, and yes, this does mean there are multiple versions of certain mastery books. (As in, they're functionally identical, but they have different item IDs)
Dragon Pulse 20/30 -> SE 20/30
Hamstring 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Concentrate 20/30 -> Advanced Final Attack 20/30
Blind 20/30 -> Illusion Step 20/30
Pheonix 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Pheonix 20/30
Frostprey 20/30 -> Spirit Link: Frostprey 20/30
Time to stock up on Dragon Pulse 20/30s now and sell later :3