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DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - EndlessAxis - 2011-06-06

I'm playing a battlemage level 115 atm and I'm interested in soloing zak, I got a clean range , unbuffed of 10k.
around 17k with pots + aura + body boost.
I can afford apples or those 200 matk pots easily.
I just want to know what range I need to have to solo efficently.

also have an NL and Aran with a range of 8.6k and 10k.
(my brother and gf )
so if I can't solo will their Damage make it easy to trio zak?

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-06-06

honestly, apples and the such aren't worth it, but i think you can't solo it yet.

however, if you trio it, it should fall down. i'll just wait for someone to come and give a more detailed answer *pokerface*

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - Shidoshi - 2011-06-06

It's hard to give a specific DPM for zak, it depends on the class and play-style during arms (which one to go for first, how many can you hit at once, etc).

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - EndlessAxis - 2011-06-06

well I can hit 3 arms at time, so the top 3 on either side I hit at once with quintuple blow and the bottom two need to be hit seperatly.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - SaptaZapta - 2011-06-06

Zakum arms total about 220m hp. Highest HP arms have 33m. I don't know enough about battle mages to tell how many arms you can hit simultaneously.

Zakum bodies total about 260m hp, and must be killed one after the other. The bodies and their summons stun, and the bodies use cancel weapon/magic attack buffs. Summons may or may not get in the way of your attacks.

Also keep in mind that Zakum has 40% PDrate.

Hopefully that's enough for you to be able to work it out.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-06-06

i have soul driver at my disposition, as well as magic crash, and an attack that ignores all PDR, it still takes me 20~30 mins to solo.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - Stereo - 2011-06-06

If you're gonna say how long it takes you, you should at least list your range :p The question how efficient the damage is, really. Most classes should be able to deal 500mil damage in 50 minutes fairly easily, esp. with a 15-20k range.

For example, at Papulatus, my Paladin takes enough time to deal a little over 200% of Pap's HP. So half my time is spent dealing with dispel (most annoying time wise), shelling up (probably next worst) and just general not-attacking (potting, KB'd out of range, sometimes stun if I am on the floor)

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - EndlessAxis - 2011-06-06

Stereo Wrote:If you're gonna say how long it takes you, you should at least list your range :p The question how efficient the damage is, really. Most classes should be able to deal 500mil damage in 50 minutes fairly easily, esp. with a 15-20k range.

For example, at Papulatus, my Paladin takes enough time to deal a little over 200% of Pap's HP. So half my time is spent dealing with dispel (most annoying time wise), shelling up (probably next worst) and just general not-attacking (potting, KB'd out of range, sometimes stun if I am on the floor)

Well on pianus I hit roughly 25k/hit without body boost ( 25k x 5 ) and it usualy takes me roughly 3-4 minutes to kill pianus.
he has the same hp as a Zak arm so I dunno what that says really.
also as for apples , i'm married so they're free.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-06-06

EndlessAxis Wrote:Well on pianus I hit roughly 25k/hit without body boost ( 25k x 5 ) and it usualy takes me roughly 3-4 minutes to kill pianus.
he has the same hp as a Zak arm so I dunno what that says really.
also as for apples , i'm married so they're free.
not sure, but does pianus have the same PDR as zak? also, let's not forget, it's easy to fall from the top ledges as a melee (sorta melee in your case) class.
Stereo Wrote:If you're gonna say how long it takes you, you should at least list your range :p The question how efficient the damage is, really. Most classes should be able to deal 500mil damage in 50 minutes fairly easily, esp. with a 15-20k range.

For example, at Papulatus, my Paladin takes enough time to deal a little over 200% of Pap's HP. So half my time is spent dealing with dispel (most annoying time wise), shelling up (probably next worst) and just general not-attacking (potting, KB'd out of range, sometimes stun if I am on the floor)

i don't like saying my range, even though it's nothing out of the ordinary. but in the end, it comes down to how good i get at blocking the super w.def's up

ut i mean, why not just go and test it, appleless? not like there's much lost, 1% exp at worst.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - Stereo - 2011-06-06

I tried to do the blocking super w.def up thing at CZak but he kept seducing while it was on cooldown, and then wdef-up while I was seduced Sad

It's probably easier to time it at normal Zak.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-06-06

Stereo Wrote:I tried to do the blocking super w.def up thing at CZak but he kept seducing while it was on cooldown, and then wdef-up while I was seduced Sad

It's probably easier to time it at normal Zak.

czak is a freaking ass <.< and yes, it's much easier on normal zak

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - Stereo - 2011-06-06

I kinda like that CZak is... not easily soloable, and still tough for a party of 15x-16x. Brings back some of the memory of being a 11x-12x party and wiping on regular Zak when the Chief Bandits died.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - Foxino - 2011-06-06

When i did arms on my BaM the top > arm, was a real pain. With constant kb away from it the first 7 arms died pretty quickly (this was on pies from cwkpq) but the last top right arm took a real long time.

btw this was around late 11x / early 12x

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-06-06

Stereo Wrote:I kinda like that CZak is... not easily soloable, and still tough for a party of 15x-16x. Brings back some of the memory of being a 11x-12x party and wiping on regular Zak when the Chief Bandits died.

not easily soloable? o.O as a pally, if you have the damage, you can do it >.<

of course, the hard part is getting the damage, but a friend (100%+ str) can easily solo up to second body without dying once.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - Stereo - 2011-06-06

Yeah, I got to early 3rd without a supportive party (lol 7th party member), it's not all that lethal... it's just DPS that would make it tough. I have ~45% str and I definitely can't come close to soloing it.

Couple skill boosts (guardian/achilles) and I'd probably have no trouble surviving the whole thing.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-06-06

Stereo Wrote:Yeah, I got to early 3rd without a supportive party (lol 7th wheel), it's not all that lethal... it's just DPS that would make it tough. I have ~45% str and I definitely can't come close to soloing it.

yep, this is how my run with the pally was:

"kill the damn seduce arm fuckfuckfuckfuck"
>she killed it
"thank god"
>procceed to struggle like an idiot spamming sac and burning a crapton of pots
>in the meantime, pally is all: Block, block, miss, block, and not losing 11% hp at 700~ MS intervals

all arms are now dead

"sweet! start spamming sac some more!"
>Pot Lock
"FFFFUUUUUU"
in the meantime, the pally dodged pot lock <.<
then the next time she got pot locked, still survived
she also blocked seduce, either that, or i was the only one getting affected 3 times in a row.

so yea... i am not looking to jump, where i also lose my achilles.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - Stereo - 2011-06-06

I didn't actually get pot locked once on that run, as far as I know... I might have just not needed to pot during them. Lol paying attention.

Guardian blocks everything magic at about a 30% chance maxed, so it's possible sed didn't work. Almost makes me want to train to 175 so I can have Achilles + Guardian maxed out.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-06-06

Stereo Wrote:I didn't actually get pot locked once on that run, as far as I know... I might have just not needed to pot during them. Lol paying attention.

Guardian blocks everything magic at about a 30% chance maxed, so it's possible sed didn't work. Almost makes me want to train to 175 so I can have Achilles + Guardian maxed out.

yep, i've been wondering for a while if i should make a pally just to solo stuff for profit, a pally can very well solo VL, and much more, provided it has the damage. and it spends nothing on pots, unlike my DrK

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - ODERS - 2011-06-06

Do the math, start with zak's HP and work backwards.

DPM required to solo zak under 50 minutes? - White - 2011-06-07

I can solo zak in under 10 minutes with 30.5k clean range on a stew. I go up to about 44k fully buffed and only attack one arm at a time.