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NL post chaos - Takebacker - 2011-05-21
TTs damage gets increased by 30% (consistent with others...), but apparently their modifier was changed.
I want to know what it is now and what it will be changed to.
NL post chaos - Grey - 2011-05-21
I'm almost positive Claw multiplier wasn't changed, I'm pretty sure I tested like right after Chaos. If there's any nerf, it must be in the actual L7/TT damage formula.
NL post chaos - Stereo - 2011-05-21
Right now it's 5.5*1.4 for L7, 6*1.4 for TT, whereas other classes are (iirc) 4*1 to 4*1.75.
L7/TT also ignore secondary stats, so don't have 1 to 1.75 * secondary.
NL post chaos - ShanghaiDizzy - 2011-05-21
Stereo Wrote:L7/TT also ignore secondary stats, so don't have 1 to 1.75 * secondary.
That's probably not true. There's inconsistencies with the damage output and the formula without the secondary DEX stat factored in. Here's a link to those inconsistencies.
NL post chaos - Takebacker - 2011-05-21
I should have been more specific.
Specifically, why the f'uck are people saying NLs are nerfed.
NL post chaos - ShanghaiDizzy - 2011-05-21
Claw multiplier drop is supposively enough to negate any percentile buffs done to the class itself. Not sure if that multiplier drop affected the L7/TT formula though so I'm as clueless about it as you are.
NL post chaos - AzureKite - 2011-05-21
I thought claw multiplier was still 1.8x? Could have sworn it was a change with the TT formula. Maybe I just didn't read up enough on it.
NL post chaos - Grey - 2011-05-21
Alright, this is post Archer jump, but it'll have to do:
Spoiler
![[Image: maple0437.jpg]](http://imageshack.us/m/824/3092/maple0437.jpg)
Multiplier * (4 * LUK + DEX) * WATK/100
LUK = 172
DEX = 90
WATK = 50 (24 Blessing+11 Claw+15 Stars)
Multiplier * (4 * 172 + 90) * 50/100 = 681
Multiplier * 389 = 681
Multiplier = 1.75
The claw multiplier is still 1.75 as it was when Big Bang came out. No multiplier drop, not that it matters since L7/TT run on their own formulas anyway.
NL post chaos - Takebacker - 2011-05-22
Can you find the change in the TT/L7 formula, then?
I want to put to rest the whole "NLs WERE NERFED FFFFF" rumors before chaos actually comes out, if possible.
NL post chaos - Grey - 2011-05-22
Takebacker Wrote:Can you find the change in the TT/L7 formula, then?
I want to put to rest the whole "NLs WERE NERFED FFFFF" rumors before chaos actually comes out, if possible.
I don't think it's possible for me to do that, at least, not without extensive testing, and there's no way I can get TT.
I'm not seeing much evidence that there is a nerf at all, just a lot of complaints, but I wouldn't know.
NL post chaos - Takebacker - 2011-05-22
Well apparently TT = L7 still, so that's a start.
NL post chaos - Grey - 2011-05-22
Takebacker Wrote:Well apparently TT = L7 still, so that's a start.
Not according to the Lucky Seven Formula Issue thread.
My damage with L7 on snails is consistent with the formulas for L7 in the thread though, so far.
NL post chaos - Alloy - 2011-05-22
All I know is that Triple throw's formula changes. Don't know how, exactly, but maybe it goes to the original formula, not sure. And by original, I mean like drain, for example. As in, counting the secondary stats and all.