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Potential line: Ignore 15% Magic Def/Physical Def when attacking - Hana - 2011-04-22
I appologize ahead of time if this has already been answered (which I'm certain of, but cannot find it).
I've seen a lot of weapons with 30% boss, mixed with atk/stat/dmg/crit%. Yet I rarely see anyone with Ignore % when attacking. I'm asking myself, why doesn't anyone have this on their weapon? I believe I recubed a boss and ignore % lines. After thinking about this for a while, I believe ignore def outweighs atk/stat% if my assumption is correct.
I want to know how this ignore % works. Does this ignore the total def or the def. rate?
I'm assuming that atk % is better if ignore def only does total def.
Potential line: Ignore 15% Magic Def/Physical Def when attacking - DragonsWrath - 2011-04-22
i believe jellyflowers' post covers this, but this entire thread should be of help
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=38952&p=649518&viewfull=1#post649518
Potential line: Ignore 15% Magic Def/Physical Def when attacking - Shidoshi - 2011-04-22
Say a monster has 40% defense. With 15% def ignore, your damage to the monster would be:
damage = (damage before defense)*(1-(0,4*(1-(def ignore))) = (damage before defense)*(1-(0,4*(1-0,15)) =
= (damage before defense)*(1-0,34) = (damage before defense)*0,66
So it would be a 0,66/0,6 damage improvement, or 10%
That's counting that none of your skills ignore part or all monster defense.
PS: There are no more 2 types of defense, the only defense is the defense rate.
Potential line: Ignore 15% Magic Def/Physical Def when attacking - Hana - 2011-04-22
Thank you for the information. Even if I have 15% Ignore w.atk, it's still better than 6% dmg.
Potential line: Ignore 15% Magic Def/Physical Def when attacking - Homerowed - 2011-04-22
Not always, this is assuming the monster has a certain PDR (physical defense rate), however with certain monsters the PDR may be low enough that 6% damage is much better, which iirc on most monsters discounting bosses, 6% damage would probably better.
Potential line: Ignore 15% Magic Def/Physical Def when attacking - ShanghaiDizzy - 2011-04-23
Hana Wrote:Thank you for the information. Even if I have 15% Ignore w.atk, it's still better than 6% dmg.
This depends on the PDrate of the monsters themselves.
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Assuming you do a hypothetical base maximum damage of 10,000 for easy calculation sake.
The monster has 40% PDRate, having 15% w.def ignore would cause it to have 34% PDRate. The damage would be 6,400.
The monster has 40% PDRate, having 6% total damage. The damage would be 6,360.
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Now, things change when monsters have a 5% PDRate.
The monster has 5% PDRate, having 15% w.def ignore would cause it to have 4.25% PDRate. The damage would be 9,575.
The monster has 5% PDRate, having 6% total damage. The damage would be 10,070.
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Summary: The 15% w.def ignore benefits you when fighting monsters with a higher PDRate. The 6% total damage increase benefits you when fighting monsters with a lower PDrate.