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how do i obtain these items after chaos? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-04-09
5 Lidiums
1 Superabrasive
5 Crystals
- 5 Wisdom for Warriors, Thieves, and Slingers, 5 LUK for Mages, Archers, and Brawlers.
30 Sign of Ares
8 Superior Crystals (Level 130+)
level 130 weapon (polearm in my case) recipe
yep, these are the items required to make the level 130 weapons, so far i know:
lidium: mining random rocks around
superabrasive: buy it from the npc, easy
crystals: mining and monster drops
signs of ares: PVP
8 superior crystals: no idea
recipe: exchange signs of ares for it?
basically, i want to know everything possible, in order it would be:
-are there any other ways to get lidium besides mining?
-does lidium appear only in specific places? or do all the mine-able stones drop them?
-crystals still drop from monsters right? at least that's what gms seems to imply
-how hard is it to get signs of ares? is it easier or worse than the old ariant pq? how does it work, by points like ariant, or you get them as a reward at the end? all the info about these is welcome.
-was another way of getting superior crystals found? so far i have heard only dissasembling works, what kind of items need to be dissassembled though? do certain equips give more than others?
-the recipe is gotten from an NPC in exchange for signs of ares right? that's why i need 30 correct?
so yea, these are the questions that came to mind, it's less about how to forge the item, but how to get the required items to forge it. these are just the questions i could think of at the time, if you have anything you might think is even remotely useful to say, please do. i am mostly interested in the recipe/ares questions, and the superior crystals one, seeing how i have no way of obtaining those except after chaos.
all your help is greatly apprecciated.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Panacea - 2011-04-09
I'll answer the first three because I can do so off the top of my head.
1. As far as I know, getting ores of any kind is solely through mining. This includes crystals.
2. I would think that a specific type of rock drops them, whether each one appears in a map I'm not sure.
3. Crystals are from mining as well, if I recall from Spadow's Blog correctly.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Takebacker - 2011-04-09
The superior crystals are from disassembling level 100-120 equipment for the 90-120 crystal and hoping that it gives you the grade above it (superior crystal).
This as you might imagine is somewhat time consuming.
And the last question, no, you get them by exchanging 6 proof of investment (same as sign of ares) for a RANDOM RECIPE SCROLL in PvP. This is also time consuming, since it's picking from every recipe.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - kremechoko - 2011-04-09
No, the sign of ares are materials to make it.
The recipe is found from monsters (dunno which) not exchanging sign of ares.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-04-09
Panacea Wrote:I'll answer the first three because I can do so off the top of my head.1-well, that just stinks, guess i'll go hunt more lidiums in the FM then, if i am gonna need 8 for a single polearm, ugh.
1. As far as I know, getting ores of any kind is solely through mining. This includes crystals.
2. I would think that a specific type of rock drops them, whether each one appears in a map I'm not sure.
3. Crystals are from mining as well, if I recall from Spadow's Blog correctly.
no problem, if anyone could elaborate i would love it, seeing videos i have seen the "more impressive looking rocks" being in places like ToT and the bottom of ludi and such, so i was wondering if they had a better drop rate of rare ores or something.
brb, more luk/lidium ore hunting.
Takebacker Wrote:The superior crystals are from disassembling level 100-120 equipment for the 90-120 crystal and hoping that it gives you the grade above it (superior crystal).
This as you might imagine is somewhat time consuming.
thanks, i wanted to know this very much, guess i'll be hoarding on level 100 equips from drops on my mules then, might as well spend my maker crystals making cheap level 100 equips too. since they aren't the same after chaos.
kremechoko Wrote:No, the sign of ares are materials to make it.
The recipe is found from monsters (dunno which) not exchanging sign of ares.
you sure? i have seen all over this place that the level 130 recipes were gotten from PVP, which is why i am wondering how, if they are indeed monster drops... there i go, soul lights all over again >.<
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Dudewitbow - 2011-04-09
I think to forge the 130 equips, you use some of your proof of investments for the recipe(at random) and while forging it, you use more proof of investments
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Takebacker - 2011-04-09
The high level recipes don't drop anywhere i heard. Only PvP trade. Which means 130 face acc/shoulderpad too. ;-;
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Dark Link - 2011-04-09
Takebacker Wrote:The high level recipes don't drop anywhere i heard. Only PvP trade. Which means 130 face acc/shoulderpad too. ;-;
Greeeeeeeeeeeat. Brb farming PvP 25/8...
Shouldn't be that bad I guess, I PvP quite a bit in WoW, so I'm always up for some.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Takebacker - 2011-04-09
Dark Link Wrote:Greeeeeeeeeeeat. Brb farming PvP 25/8...
Shouldn't be that bad I guess, I PvP quite a bit in WoW, so I'm always up for some.
I'll f'ucking slap your s'hit.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-04-09
Dark Link Wrote:Greeeeeeeeeeeat. Brb farming PvP 25/8...
Shouldn't be that bad I guess, I PvP quite a bit in WoW, so I'm always up for some.
Takebacker Wrote:I'll f'ucking slap your s'hit.
fraps or it will not happen. i'd love to fight you guys, but you are a bit far away (looking for khaini/scania merge loljk)
meh, and i don't care how long it takes, i am gettingh that darn thing, also, inb4 link loses evolving ring three or something for doing pvp instead of afking.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Dark Link - 2011-04-09
ShinkuDragon Wrote:also, inb4 link loses evolving ring three or something for doing pvp instead of afking.
What's that supposed to mean!? >:O
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-04-09
Dark Link Wrote:What's that supposed to mean!? >:O
nothing nothing *innocent whispers*
still, looking for more confirmation on recipes and the such, if recipes are truly random prize, it's gonna be ugh unless i get a good one or something.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - FoolsLove - 2011-04-09
I believe some drop from monsters, and others are gotten through PvP. Only people from kMS would really know though, like kreme there.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Xiger - 2011-04-09
ShinkuDragon Wrote:5 Lidiums
1 Superabrasive
5 Crystals
- 5 Wisdom for Warriors, Thieves, and Slingers, 5 LUK for Mages, Archers, and Brawlers.
30 Sign of Ares
8 Superior Crystals (Level 130+)
level 130 weapon (polearm in my case) recipe
yep, these are the items required to make the level 130 weapons, so far i know:
lidium: mining random rocks around
superabrasive: buy it from the npc, easy
crystals: mining and monster drops
signs of ares: PVP
8 superior crystals: no idea
recipe: exchange signs of ares for it?
basically, i want to know everything possible, in order it would be:
-are there any other ways to get lidium besides mining?
Nope
-does lidium appear only in specific places? or do all the mine-able stones drop them?
Only the Big purple rocks drop lithiums. It also drops LUK and Wisdom ores.
-crystals still drop from monsters right? at least that's what gms seems to imply
Nope, they no longer drop.
-how hard is it to get signs of ares? is it easier or worse than the old ariant pq? how does it work, by points like ariant, or you get them as a reward at the end? all the info about these is welcome.
For 500 Points of PvP, you get 1 Sign. There are other packs, which are cheaper. I get like 20 - 30 points per round of PvP, so you do the Math, of course, the better you are in PvP (most Ko's) you'll get more points.
-was another way of getting superior crystals found? so far i have heard only dissasembling works, what kind of items need to be dissassembled though? do certain equips give more than others?
I think so, level 120 items give level 130+ crystals at a higher rate, that is, what logic states.
-the recipe is gotten from an NPC in exchange for signs of ares right? that's why i need 30 correct?
No, you need 6(?) to trade for a Random Recipe, which you double click to get, well a random recipe of level130 equipment.
so yea, these are the questions that came to mind, it's less about how to forge the item, but how to get the required items to forge it. these are just the questions i could think of at the time, if you have anything you might think is even remotely useful to say, please do. i am mostly interested in the recipe/ares questions, and the superior crystals one, seeing how i have no way of obtaining those except after chaos.
all your help is greatly apprecciated.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - HighOnMushrooms - 2011-04-09
I'm not sure about where the recipe comes from, but if it is from PvP, you'll have to spend Signs to get it and then get another 30 Signs to actually make it. In Ice Knight, I got about 90+ points each round, so it isn't that slow.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Liteness - 2011-04-09
shinku, ur forgetting we're in scania f3, we'll see lvl 130 recipes in fm sooner than u think
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-04-09
Xiger Wrote:-Nope
-Only the Big purple rocks drop lithiums. It also drops LUK and Wisdom ores.
-Nope, they no longer drop.
-For 500 Points of PvP, you get 1 Sign. There are other packs, which are cheaper. I get like 20 - 30 points per round of PvP, so you do the Math, of course, the better you are in PvP (most Ko's) you'll get more points.
-I think so, level 120 items give level 130+ crystals at a higher rate, that is, what logic states.
-No, you need 6(?) to trade for a Random Recipe, which you double click to get, well a random recipe of level130 equipment.
-crap
-cool, do they appear in specific locations? like, are there places where there are a lot of these? or are they evenly spread out? at least now i know what to look for.
-guess this is pretty much a definite then
-ugh, that's A LOT of pvp, how good do you say you do to get those 20~30 points?
-well, logically yes, but can't really trust that one :X and after all, the only 120 equips around are reverse/timeless, so i don't think i can hoard enough of those to dismantle >.< dragon and 100 equips it will be. hopefully in the time it takes me to get a recipe, they get into the market for a "low" price or something
-at least it's a random 130 recipe, instead of "lol whatever goes guys!" gonna guess this includes the 130 shoulderpads, earrings and whatnots besides the weapons though.
gonna be tough, and can you elaborate too on how the scores go HOM? like, from your experience? also, how fun do you think the PvP is?
thanks a lot for the info Xiger
@liteness: i am not forgetting that i am in scania, you are hahaha, think of at what price they are going to be? just thinking of that makes me shiver man. that and the 130 rocks are what i think will be the most expensive things.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - Grey - 2011-04-09
That's an outdated recipe, by the way, here's the most recent one:
1 Level 130 Pole Arm:
2 Lidium
1 Super Abrasive Varnish
8 Wisdom Crystal
30 Proof of Investment (Same thing as Mark of Ares)
8 Advanced Item Crystal (130+)
Mining rocks appear in all maps with monsters over level 30, with the exception of World Tour and Event maps, I guess. They seem to be distibuted completely randomly.
Oh right, you still need the recipe, but it's not listed up there because it's not one of the materials required to make it, you just need the recipe to unlock the ability to make it, and only once.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - ShinkuDragon - 2011-04-09
iAmFear Wrote:That's an outdated recipe, by the way, here's the most recent one:
1 Level 130 Pole Arm:
2 Lidium
1 Super Abrasive Varnish
8 Wisdom Crystal
30 Proof of Investment (Same thing as Mark of Ares)
8 Advanced Item Crystal (130+)
Mining rocks appear in all maps with monsters over level 30, with the exception of World Tour and Event maps, I guess. They seem to be distibuted completely randomly.
Oh right, you still need the recipe, but it's not listed up there because it's not one of the materials required to make it, you just need the recipe to unlock the ability to make it, and only once.
wait, so i only need ONE recipe, and after that i can make all the polearms i want, provided i have the items? if so... NICE!
and was the recipe changed later on, or it hit chaos like that? guess i'll have to get more wisdom crystals then, 8 a try is a lot, even with the reduced cost of proffesions.
and if they are random, guess that benefits the market at least then, so i am not complaining, specially since i now need two lidiums a pop.
so recipes aren't really "lost" but "learned" hm? sounds much better now. still, moe confirmation would be nice.
how do i obtain these items after chaos? - HighOnMushrooms - 2011-04-09
All recipes are different. Most equipment are available for one use, and most potions are available for one day (after you use the recipe).