Alloy Wrote:Also, I'll have to say that Avenger is about as strong as Triple Throw on 2 mobs. Or at least, so-so. On 3, it completely beats it.

JoeTang Wrote:Avenger is close to Triple Throw on two mobs, but since it's slower, and Triple Throw has ignore defense and a better formula, it is still a bit stronger.

Alloy Wrote:Actually, you have to factor in that with throwing star mastery from 4th job, it gets both the base damage and the SP damage boosted, too, so it's basically a skill dealing 437.5% damage, with the SP hits dealing 62.5% damage from that. Also, don't let the numbers fool you, it's the same speed, but it can trick you because TT hits for longer, and the next hit connects before the numbers fade away.

If anything, it'd depend on your venom level. if it's high enough, you'd have a good interest in having both mobs poisoned, not just the one in front.

JoeTang Wrote:Avenger does 425% damage per hit. Assuming the multiplier from Expert Throwing Star Handling somehow affects Shadow Partner like you say it does, Avenger will do 690.625% per hit with Shadow Partner. Avenger is 630ms at max speed, 30ms slower than Triple Throw. This is a fact and has nothing to do with when the numbers for damage appear. Therefore, Avenger and Shadow Partner do 1096.2%/s per target.

Triple throw does 250% per hit. With Shadow Partner with each hit, it does 1125% per attack at 600ms at max speed. Triple Throw does 1875%/s. Combined with its formula, which is currently estimated at 1.2x the Claw formula, give or take a few points due to dex, Triple Throw effectively does around 2250%/s.

Are you sure Expert Throwing Star Handling is a straight +25% damage and not a 1.25x increase?

Never mind, Expert Throwing Star Handling is indeed a 1.25x increase in damage, making Avenger do 1289.7%/s which is indeed stronger than Triple Throw on two targets.