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Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Link - 2011-03-06

No one posted this yet?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltrends/nasascientistfindsevidenceofalienlife

[Image: Bacteria-in-Meteorites.jpg]

Quote:Aliens exist, and we have proof.
That astonishingly awesome claim comes from Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, who says he has found conclusive evidence of alien life — fossils of bacteria found in an extremely rare class of meteorite called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites. (There are only nine such meteorites on planet Earth.) Hoover’s findings were published late Friday night in the Journal of Cosmology, a peer-reviewed scientific journal.
“I interpret it as indicating that life is more broadly distributed than restricted strictly to the planet earth,” Hoover, who has spent more than 10 years studying meteorites around the world, told FoxNews.com in an interview. “This field of study has just barely been touched — because quite frankly, a great many scientist would say that this is impossible.”
Hoover discovered the fossils by breaking apart the CI1 meteorite, and analyzing the exposed rock with a scanning-electron microscope and a field emission electron-scanning microscope, which allowed him to detect any fossil remains. What he found were fossils of micro-organisms, many of which he says are strikingly similar to those found on our own planet.
“The exciting thing is that they are in many cases recognizable and can be associated very closely with the generic species here on earth,” said Hoover. Some of the fossils, however, are quite odd. “There are some that are just very strange and don’t look like anything that I’ve been able to identify, and I’ve shown them to many other experts that have also come up stump.”
In order to satisfy the inevitable hoard of buzz-killing skeptics, Hoover’s study and evidence were made available to his peers in the scientific community in advance of the study’s publications, giving them a chance to thoroughly dissect his findings. Comments from those who decided to sift through the evidence will be published online, alongside the study.
“Given the controversial nature of his discovery, we have invited 100 experts and have issued a general invitation to over 5,000 scientists from the scientific community to review the paper and to offer their critical analysis,” writes Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics scientist Dr. Rudy Schild, who serves as the Journal of Cosmology’s editor-in-chief. “No other paper in the history of science has undergone such a thorough vetting, and never before in the history of science has the scientific community been given the opportunity to critically analyze an important research paper before it is published.”
Needless to say, if Hoover's conclusions are found to be accurate, the implications for human life will be staggering. Here's hoping that he's right.
Update: While the Journal of Cosmology says that “no other paper in the history of science has undergone such a thorough vetting,” some highly respected names in the scientific community are challenging the validity of Cosmology, and the findings of Dr. Hoover.
“[The Journal of Cosmology] isn’t a real science journal at all,” says PZ Meyers in Science Blogs, “but is the ginned-up website of a small group of crank academics obsessed with the idea of Hoyle and Wickramasinghe that life originated in outer space and simply rained down on Earth.”
So there you have it — this is either reality-altering news, or the work of kooks. Our hearts believe, but our brains are kind of bummed.



Alien Life Found (Fossils) - 2147483647 - 2011-03-06

So how do they know that the cells didn't get into the meteorite after it hit the earth?


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - butterfλi - 2011-03-06

2147483647 Wrote:So how do they know that the cells didn't get into the meteorite after it hit the earth?

"some highly respected names in the scientific community are challenging the validity of Cosmology, and the findings of Dr. Hoover.

...So there you have it — this is either reality-altering news, or the work of kooks."


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Corn - 2011-03-06

“I interpret it as indicating that life is more broadly distributed than restricted strictly to the planet earth,” Hoover, who has spent more than 10 years studying meteorites around the world, told FoxNews.com in an interview. “This field of study has just barely been touched — because quite frankly, a great many scientist
would say that this is impossible.”

Uh oh fox news.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Bomber - 2011-03-06

Out of so many galaxies, universes, planets..there has to be life. But it's not easy to find them, nor trek there or them trek here. Course there is life somewhere, but finding it is the hard part.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - -Ghost- - 2011-03-06

My grandpa used to collect a lot of Native American crap from old sites and stuff and he had taken pictures of some cave drawings or something where it looked like an alien coming out of a ship. It was like, standing at the top of some stairs and had some door-like thing behind it with light coming from it. My grandpa said maybe it was supposed to represent god, but I call aliens on it.



Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Sn1perJohnE - 2011-03-06

The update made me laugh. Science fields are full of pricks who like to wax their egos.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Cancambo - 2011-03-06

2147483647 Wrote:So how do they know that the cells didn't get into the meteorite after it hit the earth?

The stuff they were found in dissolves in water. They believe that since it is still intact that the bacteria lived outside of Earth where there was some water. I think the paper suggests that they might have lived in the center of the comet where there was water.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - TaliaNCo - 2011-03-07

One of my favorite movie quotes......

"If we're alone in the universe, that's an awful lot of wasted space."


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Words - 2011-03-07

Will wait for what other scientists say.
Hopefully they will make it clear for everyone :3


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - MetaSeraphim - 2011-03-07

butterfλi Wrote:reality-altering news

How so?


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - OB3LISK - 2011-03-07

Wow this is so cool.

I question how the bacteria survived without water and other nutrients around in space.

And where does this specifically rare meteorite come from such that bacteria are living on it.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?!?!


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Satellite - 2011-03-07

Total bull.

Journal of Cosmology? If I found evidence of life, I would contact NASA to make official announcement.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Link - 2011-03-07

OB3LISK Wrote:Wow this is so cool.

I question how the bacteria survived without water and other nutrients around in space.

And where does this specifically rare meteorite come from such that bacteria are living on it.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?!?!

Well, it's not a fossil for no reason. No one said it survived in the vacuum of space. For all we know, it was dead long before it entered space.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - kanevaldier - 2011-03-07

Satellite Wrote:Total bull.

Journal of Cosmology? If I found evidence of life, I would contact NASA to make official announcement.

Ummm....maybe you missed this part but the scientist is from NASA. The journal of cosmology is just one of many open forums that scientists use to communicate their findings with other scientists and general public.

I would say that this finding is pretty big. It only stands to reason that life exists on other worlds too. It is a big universe and if we are all there is then thats a lot of wasted space.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - ThatWasMyKil - 2011-03-07

TaliaNCo Wrote:One of my favorite movie quotes......

"If we're alone in the universe, that's an awful lot of wasted space."

Contact?


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Lozmaster - 2011-03-07

butterfλi Wrote:"some highly respected names in the scientific community are challenging the validity of Cosmology, and the findings of Dr. Hoover.

...So there you have it — this is either reality-altering news, or the work of kooks."

Well, to be fair, scientists challenge the validity of every discovery that comes along- thats how science works. To get a piece of work published in a journal, it will also have been looked over by multiple others in the field before it gets there, so there must be something to the research worth looking at, even if it doesn't results in proof of alien life.

Satellite Wrote:Total bull.

Journal of Cosmology? If I found evidence of life, I would contact NASA to make official announcement.

And you're not a scientist are you? Because virtually every creditable scientist makes research findings known through -gasp- journals and research papers published in said journals.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Alloy - 2011-03-07

OB3LISK Wrote:Wow this is so cool.

I question how the bacteria survived without water and other nutrients around in space.

And where does this specifically rare meteorite come from such that bacteria are living on it.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?!?!

Water could be easily sealed inside the meteorite, filtered withing the rock, so that's not an issue... Unless they find out something ground breaking like the bacteria being a silice-based organism or something.


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Loose - 2011-03-08

My girlfriend: "It looks like a penis."
Me: "Huh, it does."


Alien Life Found (Fossils) - Erich - 2011-03-08

Loose Wrote:My girlfriend: "It looks like a penis."
Me: "Huh, it does."

Loose is to boobs, as his girlfriend is to penises?

SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERY.
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On a more serious note, this is a big step forward, but not enough to say we have life somewhere else that is almost as advanced or more advanced than we are. Or hell, something that isn't tiny.