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Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - NekoNeko - 2011-03-04
Sorry if this issue seems to be a bit old , but I've just read this topic on Basil :
http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1706323/1/Price_for__Potential_Equip_in_KMS_is_so_CHEAP.html
Quote:I navered(korean google) price for unique potential on Naver(most popular Korean search engine like google)
and the price for 15% stat is only around 250m.
in KMS miracle cube is 1200nx and package is 6 cubes for 6000nx(all nx items have pretty much the same price as in gms, only difference is they dont expire in KMS)
1000nx = 1000won
1000won = 0.86USD
ATK10 WG is 100m~150m(though this is very dependent on each servers, there are 32 servers in kms currently)
ATK 8 is 35m~40m
In, KMS it usually takes 20 cubes to make EPIK from RARE, and 30+ cubes to make UNIQUE from EPIK in KMS(i asked peaple in kms, some lucky pple only took 10 cubes from rare to unique tho)
so it normally takes 50+ cubes to make UNIQUE from RARE
http://blog.naver.com/gg0916?Redirect=Log&logNo=80114769127
Int 9%
Avoid 6%
All Stat 6%
Total 15% Int
http://blog.naver.com/gg0916?Redirect=Log&logNo=80114769127 (scroll down to bottom and press this �̶����� �� ť������۵� [�����ý��丮] (1))
STR 9%
W.DEF 6%
STR 6%
Total 15% STR
-I also searched some more prices and this came out
10% stat(altogether) = 180m~200m
15% stat(altogether) = 250m~350m
20%+ stat(altogether) = 1b+
also have a look at this BM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV3xdyZSjMQ&feature=related
he has 2727(868+1859) DEX (watch in 720HD larger screen if you want to see this)
which is 214% Dex from bas dex
Potential Equips came out on 21st May 2010 in KMS
Isn't it Kinda weird? or is it that the GMS is highly infalted?
I just wanna ask , especially from someone who has played both KMS and GMS , if it's really true ? And if it is , is it really because of the cubing rate of KMS ?
I have an argument with my friend about this issue , but he didn't seem to find the url above persuasive , so I want to have some more info regarding this topic . Sorry for the inconvenient
P/s : Btw , I think it's still big bang patch in the Korean link , as it was wrote on Sep 4th 2010 . KMS shouldn't have updated Chaos at that time .
And I just want to know generally about this piece of info if the price is cheaper or somehow the rate seems better or stuffs , no specific at all
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Takebacker - 2011-03-04
It's entirely possible they changed the upgrade rates in chaos. There isn't enough information to conclude WHY, only that it is indeed the case.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Malthe - 2011-03-04
Different servers = difference prices.
I don't know about the differences in the potential system but just because something costs less in another server than it does in your own does not make it cheap, different servers different economies.
I'd give a more exact answer but i've only seen and experienced the KMS version of potential.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - NekoNeko - 2011-03-04
Thank for you reply
Btw , I think it's still big bang patch in the Korean link , as it was wrote on Sep 4th 2010 . KMS shouldn't have updated Chaos at that time .
Updated the info
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - MissingLink - 2011-03-04
Quote:In, KMS it usually takes 20 cubes to make EPIK from RARE, and 30+ cubes to make UNIQUE from EPIK in KMS
I don't think this is much different from what major cube users in GMS would tell you.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - MysticHLE - 2011-03-04
MissingLink Wrote:I don't think this is much different from what major cube users in GMS would tell you.
It makes sense given those cube numbers since Epic 3 line items are usually around 250-450 mil...and Unique 3 lines are usually around 700-900 mil+ here in GMS.
NX to mesos ratio is currently 1:13-1:14 on my server, so that translates to 20-50 cubes * 1.2k NX = 24k-60k NX => 324-810 mil in mesos.
@OP: So to answer your question...I don't think the cubing rates are any different. GMS just seems to be horribly inflated compared to KMS.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - NekoNeko - 2011-03-05
So is there any reason why their prices are that much different ?
I mean the wg price in KMS and GMS is pretty much the same , but the % pot item price is about 2 times cheaper in KMS . Or is it that the scroll price is more expensive in KMS ?
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Dusk - 2011-03-05
Everything's cheaper in KMS due to less meso farming hackers and no "meso bag" bullshit in the Cash Shop. Mesos are harder to acquire in KMS.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Berzerk - 2011-03-05
The only thing that comes to mind is that they've had potential longer so prices are cheaper, which makes complete sense. Especially if it was around 5 or 6 months, which usually is the time it takes for GMS to get KMS's content.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - IKnowUWonder2 - 2011-03-05
Now i wonder what's the attack of glove that normal funded KMS players can get in general? iirc, they don't have scg (as well as "some advantage" like fs, pink scrolls, ws/chaos exploit, PyPQ scrolls botter etc... in GMS) so 10att wg in KMS is like 12~13att wg (or bwg/scg) in GMS? So, if the OP taken 10 att wg as the benchmark to compare the difference of price between GMS and KMS, it will be inaccurate because the huge difference of the economy between two servers
@OP: hehe you know who i am
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - NekoNeko - 2011-03-05
So that means the % pot equips in KMS are cheaper in general just because there're less meso farmers and they have cube pack ? Nothing to do with the cubing rate ?
I wonder about the equips of a normal funded KMS player in general , too . All the vids I found on youtube are quite well-funded ( or so I think )
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Phoenix - 2011-03-05
Here's a good benchmark, what's the NX:mesos ratio in KMS. Should be easier to find out with the cash trading room, how much do people sell cubes for?
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - OrangeGuy - 2011-03-05
Dusk Wrote:Everything's cheaper in KMS due to less meso farming hackers and no "meso bag" bullshit in the Cash Shop. Mesos are harder to acquire in KMS.
Here's your answer.
Not to mention we dont have quests which give free 750K mesos at an absurdly high rate.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - MysticHLE - 2011-03-05
OrangeGuy Wrote:Here's your answer.
Not to mention we dont have quests which give free 750K mesos at an absurdly high rate.
It's Nexon's answer to the hackers. They can't stop them, so make everyone else richer easily too by allowing them quests that give a lot of mesos...
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Draego - 2011-03-05
Dusk Wrote:Everything's cheaper in KMS due to less meso farming hackers and no "meso bag" bullshit in the Cash Shop. Mesos are harder to acquire in KMS.
This is the reason. + they have no NLC!
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Jellyflower - 2011-03-05
They may have changed cube rates after chaos. Can't really answer why there's such a big difference in prices but I'll say demand and supply is different there. KMS has no world transfer I believe, so prices will be world dependent. And your assumption of that archer having 214% dex is incorrect; maple warrior + dex from equip are part of the bonus. So if they have 100 dex from equip and 120 dex from mw, that's 1088 dex pre%'ed -> ~150% dex bonus.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Terry - 2011-03-05
Dusk Wrote:Everything's cheaper in KMS due to less meso farming hackers and no "meso bag" bullpomegranate in the Cash Shop. Mesos are harder to acquire in KMS.
There are so many mesos farming botters in KMS; I don't know what you're talking about.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Takebacker - 2011-03-05
Terry Wrote:There are so many mesos farming botters in KMS; I don't know what you're talking about.
Mesos being harder to aquire is still a fact.
We have at least 4 major meso farming spots for any level range. 40+, sakura cellions or leprechauns. 70+, windraider badge exchange. 160+, farming at neo city 3rd exclusive map with RGTS. None of these areas exist in KMS.
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - IKnowUWonder2 - 2011-03-06
Terry Wrote:There are so many mesos farming botters in KMS; I don't know what you're talking about.Please be more specific? Are you saying that KMS have as much mesos farming botters as GMS? From what i heard about KMS as well as some famous hackers in GMS confirm, i thought there is almost no hack/bot/exploit there
About the crazy % stats of KMS players videos/pictures and NX:mesos ratio in KMS, we can find some answers from KMS players (or both GMS/KMS player) here http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=31913, still need more ppl confirm this though
Is it true that price for % potential equip in KMS is much cheaper than GMS ? - Dusk - 2011-03-06
IKnowUWonder2 Wrote:Please be more specific? Are you saying that KMS have as much mesos farming botters as GMS? From what i heard about KMS as well as some famous hackers in GMS confirm, i thought there is almost no hack/bot/exploit there
About the crazy % stats of KMS players videos/pictures and NX:mesos ratio in KMS, we can find some answers from KMS players (or both GMS/KMS player) here http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=31913, still need more ppl confirm this though
There are plenty of botters in KMS. Mesos are still much more abundant in GMS.