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Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Erebus - 2011-02-16 Yahoo; Wrote:FEASTERVILLE, Pa. A high school English teacher in suburban Philadelphia who was suspended for a profanity-laced blog in which she called her young charges "disengaged, lazy whiners" is driving a sensation by daring to ask: Why are today's students unmotivated and what's wrong with calling them out?Source Thoughts? Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Worthyness - 2011-02-16 I honestly don't see the problem. She didn't point anyone out directly, and she didn't even use her full name. Blog = internets= free territory for everyone to dump their mind contents to. Whoever suspended her is an idiot. You have students who can rage about their teachers on their Facebooks or w/e and not be suspended, and as soon as an adult does it, it's considered suspension worthy? Double standard here methinks. Last sentence says it all: her pomegranate was so general, it could be applied to almost any school teacher in any part of the world at any given time. And about the contents: yeah kids aren't motivated in school anymore and they do get a free pass. Anyone in my high school with a D average gets to graduate. School is just a place they have to be until they're 8 and then the can proceed to pineapple up their lives to whatever the hell they want. But we continue school for those motivated few who will get into college and who will go to places later on in life. Those kids are just butthurt because it's true. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Secun - 2011-02-16 She's right. Kids these days are pineappleing little whiners asking for hand-outs all the damn time. People just get too damn butthurt these days to notice when there is a problem going on. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Anonymous Moose - 2011-02-16 First, I love how the article does not link us to the blog or at least a copy of the blog so that we could read it and decide for ourselves. Instead, they cherry pick quotes that dont give us the full picture. For example, I would like to read the blog to see if this blog is as profanity-laced as they claim. As the article only cherry picked the quotes and information, I can only comment on the two major issues this article covers. First, its a shame that this woman was fired for expressing her First Amendment right to Free Speech. We all know that free speech can be rude, but how would you like to be fired or punished just for a little venting? The second issue is that she complains about student behaviors. Well, the system has failed the students. [video=youtube;Bx4pN-aiofw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw[/video] Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - XTOTHEL - 2011-02-16 Anonymous Moose Wrote:First, its a shame that this woman was fired for expressing her First Amendment right to Free Speech. Didn't the article say she was suspended without pay? != fired. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Anonymous Moose - 2011-02-16 XTOTHEL Wrote:Didn't the article say she was suspended without pay? != fired. I mispoke obviously. I have a habit of overusing the term. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - XTOTHEL - 2011-02-16 Anonymous Moose Wrote:I mispoke obviously. I have a habit of overusing the term. Ahh, noted. Yea it is too bad she got fried. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Mute - 2011-02-16 XTOTHEL Wrote:Didn't the article say she was suspended without pay? != fired. She was suspended with pay. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - XTOTHEL - 2011-02-16 Mute Wrote:She was suspended with pay. As seen from above, people misspeak. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Mute - 2011-02-16 XTOTHEL Wrote:As seen from above, people misspeak. You may be able to see it but I cannot. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Anonymous Moose - 2011-02-16 Let's not dwell on minor mistakes. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - MiSSHaku - 2011-02-16 I don't see anything wrong about her ranting, it's not like she pointed out exactly who she was belittling. >_> Worthyness Wrote:I honestly don't see the problem. She didn't point anyone out directly, and she didn't even use her full name. Blog = internets= free territory for everyone to dump their mind contents to. Whoever suspended her is an idiot. You have students who can rage about their teachers on their Facebooks or w/e and not be suspended, and as soon as an adult does it, it's considered suspension worthy? Double standard here methinks.Students at my school have been suspended over actions on Facebook. :X Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Anonymous Moose - 2011-02-16 MiSSHaku Wrote:Students at my school have been suspended over actions on Facebook. :X Schools have tried going after students for eating mike-n-ikes. Quote:The 16-year-old from Penn Valley, Pa. claims Matsko showed him photos remotely taken with the built-in webcam on his MacBook, according to the suit.To make it worse the photos where obtained by a school issued laptop that was secretly spying on the student. Quote:If the allegations of spying prove to be true, Blake may not be the only victim. Other students claim they've seen their webcam go live while off school grounds and worry they've been spied on too.http://citypaper.net/blogs/clog/2010/02/20/blake-robbins-crime-popping-mike-n-ikes-he-says/ Schools have fallen very far down the hole. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Locked - 2011-02-16 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sALNOuknr30J:natalieshandbasket.blogspot.com/2010/01/if-you-dont-have-anything-nice-to-say.html+%22Where+are+we+going+and+why+are+we+in+this+handbasket%22+%22Natalie%22+%22If+you+don't+have+anything+nice+to+say%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com ^ the blog itself. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Corn - 2011-02-16 -Asked too many questions and took too long to ask them. The bell means it's time to leave! What? -Weirdest kid I've ever met. So? Lol @ this comment. Dear... you, Hey, I remember you. This is Jeff Shoolbraid talking, just so you know I'm not hiding behind a computer screen and just randomly bashing you. I'm not sure if you remember me, but you were by far the worst teacher I've ever had because you were simply a plum. Turns out my assumption was correct. Though, if I just sit here and call you names and such it really doesn't prove any points and makes me essentially as unintelligent as you. It also doesn't really solve too much, but now that it's out of the way, here are my just as pointless two cents: Students can be a pain, but it's your job to deal with them. So this means it's your job to deal with the assholes, weird kids, drama queens, quiet kids, and so on. The students, on the other hand, don't really owe you anything. You see, as a teacher, the world should not revolve around you. You should revolve around the students' lives. Sure, maybe kids treat you like pomegranate, or don't give a pomegranate in general as far as the class goes, but you have to remember the demographic here. You're teaching high school kids. These are the rebellious/self involved/self discovering times in there lives. They are transitioning from being kids to adults. So sorry if they don't exactly know how to go about being interested in a high school English class. You need to give them a reason to give a pineapple, and this starts with showing respect to them, which involves a little bit of extra work on your part. Though, if you're not willing to do that, I don't blame you. I for one don't know what it's like from a teacher's prospective like yours, and I'd believe you if you said it was tough. Maybe teaching isn't cut out for you though. It doesn't give you the right to virtually abuse your class via an internet blog, which is just tacky by the way. It also doesn't give you the right to rob you students of a solid high school education. It's not a students' job to please you, it's your job to get a student an A to the best of your ability in a reasonable fashion. So sure, some students may still not give a pomegranate. If so, give them an F. Some students might still be assholes, but I had a pretty good relationship with Silverfox and all the principles at the school (not in a bad way) and I know they're all more than capable with dealing with those kids. And sure, some kids still might be drama queens (and kings, lets keep it pc) but hell, that's life. I also heard that this little stunt is getting your fired, and to all the students and parents that you've pissed off over the years, I'm going to take this opportunity to say good riddance! Sincerely, Jeff Shoolbraid PS. Presidents have something to do with politics, I hope you've learned this by now. ______________________ I have a feeling she overreacted, but she probably was initially justified in her reaction. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Anonymous Moose - 2011-02-16 Maybe I'll read more of the blog later, but I'm wondering why the article calls this blog "profanity-laced." Is ass really that profane? Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Corn - 2011-02-16 Uses ass and pineapple a couple of times. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Anonymous Moose - 2011-02-16 Corn Wrote:Uses ass and pineapple a couple of times. The word pineapple is only used once by the teacher in the specific link you gave. "Rude, beligerent, argumentative pineapple." I dont think using the word once warrents calling the blog "profanity-laced" The 6 other cases of "pineapple" are in the comments. Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Corn - 2011-02-16 Anonymous Moose Wrote:The word pineapple is only used once by the teacher in the specific link you gave. Oops, I meant them collectively. Still. I'd freak out if my report card contained something along the lines of "pineapple you." Pa. teacher strikes nerve with 'lazy whiners' blog - Erich - 2011-02-16 Did she take it too far? Yes. Does she have her freedom of speech? Yes. Is she abusing it? No. Should schools allow some comments that actually say what the kid is like? Yes. Should snarky comments like this be allowed? Probably not. |