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Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - scyzzo - 2011-02-08
Is it well known to be glitched because I couldn't find any posts about it. Is it just a waste of SP now?
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Alilatias - 2011-02-08
Wait, hold on, it's glitched? Since when?
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Five Second Pose - 2011-02-08
It's a multiplier on base avoid, but looking at your level you probably already know that. Is it not applying the multiplier anymore?
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Christopher - 2011-02-08
I've never read anything about it being glitched.
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Worthyness - 2011-02-08
It's not like Shadow shifter. It just makes you miss a little more than normal; nothing breath taking. It really is a lame skill now that i think about it AND doesn't really cover the whole: archers have the least of everything fact (except accuracy, but who needs that nowadays?).
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Locked - 2011-02-08
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:It's a multiplier on base avoid, but looking at your level you probably already know that. Is it not applying the multiplier anymore?
I always thought it was a proc rate. Base avoid + 20% = Avoid rate. Cap at 85% (?). Or something like that.
Edit: Looking at it now, it does seem like a lame and useless skill.
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Punch - 2011-02-08
Useless?
Me like MISSing
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - StringStrider - 2011-02-08
Worthyness Wrote:It's not like Shadow shifter. It just makes you miss a little more than normal; nothing breath taking. It really is a lame skill now that i think about it AND doesn't really cover the whole: archers have the least of everything fact (except accuracy, but who needs that nowadays?).
Eh?
What about the OP Wild Hunter hackers that won't pineapple off, and just walk in to your map and set up their packet editor...
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - 66alex66 - 2011-02-08
StringStrider Wrote:Eh?
What about the OP Wild Hunter hackers that won't pineapple off, and just walk in to your map and set up their packet editor...
What do hackers have to do anything with normal people? For all you know they could make any of their stats any value including accuracy
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - scyzzo - 2011-02-09
It's just that I've never seen "Dodge" over my head. I have 2390 W avoid 517 M avoid. +156 from gear/blessing +8% from potential.
Source
Physical Avoid = DEX + (LUK * 2)
Avoid = 1854 + (101 * 2) = 2056
(2056 + 156) * 1.08 = 2388.96
2388.96 close enough to 2390 to say that dodge not affecting my avoid directly.
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Five Second Pose - 2011-02-10
It's not supposed to show a "dodge", it shows a "miss" as if nothing's changed.
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Avery - 2011-02-10
While the extra avoid is nice, the strength of this skill is that after every miss your next attack will be 100% criticals. For marksmen this is a big boost. For bm it's nice but not as important (they only get 1 arrow at 100% crit, while we receive 6 crits.)
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Punch - 2011-02-10
Avery Wrote:While the extra avoid is nice, the strength of this skill is that after every miss your next attack will be 100% criticals. For marksmen this is a big boost. For bm it's nice but not as important (they only get 1 arrow at 100% crit, while we receive 6 crits.)
I was about to post this.. thanks~
It's not really fair how this effect works better with Strafe than it does with Hurricane.. they should fix this..
Like "1 Second of 100% Critical" or something? Ya know?
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - JoeTang - 2011-02-10
Punch Wrote:I was about to post this.. thanks~
It's not really fair how this effect works better with Strafe than it does with Hurricane.. they should fix this..
Like "1 Second of 100% Critical" or something? Ya know?
Because Hurricane activating Final Attack 3.3 times every second is fair for Marksmen.
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - Stereo - 2011-02-10
JoeTang Wrote:Because Hurricane activating Final Attack 3.3 times every second is fair for Marksmen.
It does make Evasion Boost pretty useless though. I figured that with TT and NLs' similar skill (activates about as often) the damage boost to TT from getting 100% crits is hardly anything. Since Hurricane only gets 1 arrow instead of 6 stars it'll be that much less.
Archer Evasion Boost glitched? - JoeTang - 2011-02-10
Stereo Wrote:It does make Evasion Boost pretty useless though. I figured that with TT and NLs' similar skill (activates about as often) the damage boost to TT from getting 100% crits is hardly anything. Since Hurricane only gets 1 arrow instead of 6 stars it'll be that much less.
100% critical is a 1.13x increase in damage from average critical.
Final Attack is 1.3x increase in damage for Hurricane.
Final Attack is a 1.05x increase in damage for Ultimate Strafe.
Evasion Boost is pomegranate tier either way. Let's say the highest physically possible number of hits you could get in a minute is no more than 60. Of those, a high level Archer with 999 avoid will miss at most 31%*1.2 of them. Therefore, 22 attacks in a minute will have 100% critical. Assuming none of those lands on a Final Attack, which is very possible, a Marksman will do (1.325 * 1260 * 62 + (1.5 * 1200 + 1.325 * 60) * 22 ) / 60 = 2414.3%/s
Without considering Evasion Boost, a Marksman does 2318.75%/s
A Bow Master does (478 * 1.325 * 260 + (1.5 * 200 + 60 * 1.325) * 22) / 60 = 2883.7%/s with Evasion Boost and 2870.8%/s without.
Marksmen are clearly overpowered because of this.