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Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - sw2009 - 2011-02-05
Pre BB, It was almost like
1 dk 1 bs 1 se 3 nl
Post BB, I wonder if it is
1 dk 1 bs 1 battle mage 3 mechanics
or
1 paladin 1 bs 1 battle mage 3 mechanics
My question is actually, which buffs more? Advance dark aura or combat order or sharp eyes ?
What about a post bb pink bean party?
bam + pala + dk + 3 mechanics or
bam + pala + dk + wildhunter + 2 mechanics ?
What is really the ideal damage dealing party with bs n dk inside, and with a dk inside.
Just curious.
or even bam + 5 mechanics ???
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Stereo - 2011-02-05
On most classes Combat Orders is only a few percent increase in dps. I think Heroes are one of the classes that get buffed the most, and they gain in the range of 10-15% damage.
So really it depends on how the various classes compare, I think 5x Mechanic + BM (or 5xMech + DK if they need HB) would be best.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Takebacker - 2011-02-05
The bossing party that my friends and i are composing will consist of:
1 bucc 1 BM 1 UA corsair 1 pally 1 shadower and possibly 1 bishop or 1 DrK. Pretty balanced party, but not "ideal damage dealing".
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Locked - 2011-02-05
3 Warriors, 1 Shadower, 1 BM, 1 Mech/BaM.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Liteness - 2011-02-05
6(of any class) with 200-400% stats each, there u go f2
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Worthyness - 2011-02-05
6 shadowers with maxed smokescreeen = perma god mode = any boss is beatable.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Takebacker - 2011-02-05
Worthyness Wrote:6 shadowers with maxed smokescreeen = perma god mode = any boss is beatable.
*Seduce.* o.o
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Locked - 2011-02-05
Takebacker Wrote:*Seduce.* o.o
Did you forget Shadowers are the original seduce mules?
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - DragonsWrath - 2011-02-05
I'd imagine ideal would be
Paladin (threaten / CO / Crash)
DK + Sader or 2x Sader if party doesnt need HB (for 100% crash up)
BaM with yellow aura (under the assumption that none of the warriors are using a fast 5 weapon, i'd imagine the +1 speed and +21% avoid would be incredibly beneficial)
Mech for damage and amplifier
either a bowman for SE or another bam with advanced dark aura?
The above party at least negates all super defense ups while also improving the party's overall damage.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Phoenix - 2011-02-05
Locked Wrote:3 Warriors, 1 Shadower, 1 BM, 1 Mech/BaM.
^ In most cases, especially PB. Any boss that casts ref/def up 3 warriors is a must.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Stereo - 2011-02-05
DragonsWrath Wrote:BaM with yellow aura (under the assumption that none of the warriors are using a fast 5 weapon, i'd imagine the +1 speed and +21% avoid would be incredibly beneficial)
+1 or +2 speed don't beat out +20% total damage for any classes I know of.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Jellyflower - 2011-02-06
Paladin, 3 heroes, battlemage, mech.
Paladin, 4 mechs, battlemage.
Criteria only meets max dps. But I think the first party basically is the most well rounded for all occasions.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - DragonsWrath - 2011-02-06
Stereo Wrote:+1 or +2 speed don't beat out +20% total damage for any classes I know of.
I was thinknig the 20% avoid would work along the lines of 20% stance, but i realize with 3 warriors and a mech that doesnt matter as much.
question, would SE or Advanced Yellow contribute more overall damage?
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Jellyflower - 2011-02-06
Advanced yellow will disconnect everyone but the battle mages so in short, no.
SE gives around 16-18% boost to archers and night lords, and a lot less significant to other jobs with no innate critical rate boosting skills. Heroes get like 3-4% benefit, and mechs won't benefit it to full potential when they're in siege mode. So not really worth putting SE into the party.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Stereo - 2011-02-06
I'd like to see numbers on which is stronger, Paladin+Hero or Paladin+Mech. From what I understand, Mech starts out stronger, but Heroes do really well on the Threaten/CO combination.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Tamillan - 2011-02-06
All bosses are easy to solo now except czak/cht/pb. Czak after chaos patch with buffs for a lot of classes should be easy to solo as well. Right now you can solo czak too but its kinda hard i think atleast for me it is. Cht and pb is the only bosses that really you need parties. Warriors are very useful in pb. Going as a party to other bosses isnt necessary.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - vx-2 - 2011-02-06
Realistically speaking........ HERO + ARAN + NL + BM (SE) + DB would still be better off. Maybe not in terms of DPS-calculation-wise.
In reality, I'm saying this is because current group of NLs and BMs probably have more godly scrolled items that would far exceed the new group of classes.
On the other hand, it'll only be time before the godly items of the newer group catches up, and change it.
Doesn't Aran + SE get a major boost in their dmg? I wonder why nobody has mention Aran yet, since it is the top DPS alone b4 mech :f6:
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - Devil - 2011-02-06
Liteness Wrote:6(of any class) with 200-400% stats each, there u go f2
Worthyness Wrote:6 shadowers with maxed smokescreeen = perma god mode = any boss is beatable.I'll summarize: 6 Shadowers with 400% potential stats and 30k washed HP in gMS.
Or 1 lvl 200 beginner with a 999999watt sword and 200k HP at a pserver.
I think where won't be much difference between the two pservers...
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - ChaosH - 2011-02-06
vx-2 Wrote:I wonder why nobody has mention Corsair yet, since it is the top DPS alone b4 mech :f6:
Fixed that for you.
Ideal Damage Dealing Party for bossing like horntails, zakums - hamad138 - 2011-02-06
no corsair because mech is way more powerfuller +100 stance + better in every way + better dpm . Fixed that for you
Best Party
1.Paladin 30%Def Ignore + CO
2.Wild Hunter SE
3.Battle Mage 30%DMG
4.Mechanic 20%DMG
5.Mechanic
6.Dark Knight HB
50% DMG + SE +30%DEF IGNORE FROM THREATEN + 30% DEF FROM ACCELATOR
60%DEF IGNORE , 50%DMG + 180CRIT Damage for Siege Mode