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Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - SEAmapler - 2011-01-18 New Type Of Entanglement Allows "Teleportation in Time", Say Physicists ![]() ![]() Entanglement is the strange quantum phenomenon in which two or more particles become so deeply linked that they share the same existence. That leads to some counterintuitive effects, in particular, when two entangled particles become widely separated. When that happens, a measurement on one immediately influences the other, regardless of the distance between them. This "spooky-action-at-a-distance" has profound implications about the nature of reality but a clear understanding of it still eludes physicists. Today, they have something else to puzzle over. Jay Olson and Timothy Ralph at the University of Queensland in Australia say they've discovered a new type of entanglement that extends, not through space, but through time. They begin by thinking about a simplified universe consisting of one dimension of space and one of time. It's easy to plot this universe on a plane with the x-axis corresponding to a spatial dimension and the y-axis corresponding to time. If you imagine the present as the origin of this graph, then the future (ie the space you can reach at subluminal speeds) forms a wedge that is symmetric about the y-axis. Your past (ie the space you could have arrived from at subluminal speeds) is a mirror image of this wedge reflected in the x-axis. When two particles are present, both sitting on the x-axis, their wedges will overlap in the future and in the past. This has a simple meaning: these particles could have interacted in the past and could do so again in the future, but only in the areas of overlap. Conventional entanglement cuts across this world, quite literally. It acts along the the x-axis, linking particles instantly in time and in defiance of the boundaries to these wedges. What Olson and Ralph show is that entanglement can just as easily work along the y-axis too. In other words, entanglement is so deeply enmeshed in the universe that a measurement in the past has an automatic influence on the future. That may sound like a truism. Isn't this is how the universe works, I hear you say. But this isn't ordinary cause and effect; there are some interesting subtleties to this phenomenon. To see how, imagine an experiment that Ralph and Olson describe in which a qubit is sent into the future. The idea is that a detector acts on a qubit and then generates a classical message describing how this particle can be detected. Then, at some point in the future, another detector at the same position in space, receives this message and carries out the required measurement, thereby reconstructing the qubit. But there's a twist. Olson and Ralph show that the detection of the qubit in the future must be symmetric in time with its creation in the past. "If the past detector was active at a quarter to 12:00, then the future detector must wait to become active at precisely a quarter past 12:00 in order to achieve entanglement," they say. For that reason, they call this process "teleportation in time". But how is this different from ordinary existence? After all, we're all time travellers, moving into the future at the same rate. What's special about Olson and Ralph's route? The answer is that Olson and Ralph's teleportation provides a shortcut into the future. What they're saying is that it's possible to travel into the future without being present during the time in between. That's a fascinating scenario that immediately raises many questions. One of the first that springs to mind is what advantage might we get from this process. Might it be possible, for example, to make short-lived particles live longer by teleporting them into the future? That isn't clear. Neither is it clear exactly how such an experiment might be done although. Presumably, it wouldn't be very different to the type of teleportation that is done in labs all over the world today, as a matter of routine (in fact Olson and Ralph say that timelike entangelment is interchangeable with the spacelike version). http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26270/?ref=rss http://arxiv.org/abs/1101.2565 Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Erebus - 2011-01-18 SEAmapler Wrote:...it wouldn't be very different to the type of teleportation that is done in labs all over the world today... Wait... what... Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - SEAmapler - 2011-01-18 Erebus Wrote:Wait... what... http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/05/quantum-teleportation-achieved-over-ten-miles-of-free-space.ars
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Before this, they already done these Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Corn - 2011-01-18 Too bad time travel will never happen, because if it did happen, then we would see time travelers from the future, but that obviously didn't happen yet, so it'll never happen. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Felicitates - 2011-01-18 [COLOR="Magenta"]What if it has and we just haven't seen them? What if its part of the rules of time travel that you aren't allowed to mention it? Otherwise the time/space continuum would collapse?![/COLOR] Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - OB3LISK - 2011-01-18 Isn't the Earth or the sun or something supposed to die eventually? And we're supposed to all move into space colonies? If so, it'd be bad to travel into the past from then. If you do: 1. You either end up in space, and you can't go around pretending to be aliens entering Earth's orbit. 2. You go to where Earth was in the future, and travel back to when Earth was there. But then..Eh. I don't like that. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - DrRusty - 2011-01-18 Corn Wrote:Too bad time travel will never happen, because if it did happen, then we would see time travelers from the future, but that obviously didn't happen yet, so it'll never happen. If human kind finally gets the technology to travel through time, then they probably have the technology to easily cover up their tracks. It's kind of the same argument with aliens. If they're thousands (maybe even millions) of years ahead of us; they should have the technology to be untraceable by our technology. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Manu - 2011-01-18 I've always wondered, if teleportation were to take you to the exact same point in the universe, but in another time, wouldn't it fail? Say I travel to July of this year, I'd end up in space because the earth has moved around the sun to the other side of it. Even more simple: I travel in time to 12 hours from now, I end up in the ocean because the earth rotated. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Worthyness - 2011-01-18 Darkmaniak Wrote:I've always wondered, if teleportation were to take you to the exact same point in the universe, but in another time, wouldn't it fail? By the time we have tech to teleport people 100% of the time (or 99.99% of the time), then we should be able to pin point where we want to teleport people and from where we teleport people. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Tsiion - 2011-01-18 Corn Wrote:Too bad time travel will never happen, because if it did happen, then we would see time travelers from the future, but that obviously didn't happen yet, so it'll never happen.I have always thought this!! if time travel where to exist, wouldnt we have seen time travelers already? but this also poses another question, maybe they just havent traveled to this time period yet...i say, scientist plant time capsles that should be opened when time travel exists, and leave a note in it that states that a time traveler should go to a certain date in the year the time capsel was made...yea...i know, there are many flaws in my plan, but hey, its worth a shot :/ Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Jamie_Kurosawa - 2011-01-18 I don't see how this theory would be feasible. No mass, gravity, or energy can occupy more than any one place in space-time. Yes space has the potential to be folded, compressed, expanded, and bent using spacial bubble compression and/or gravity wells, but you are still in one place at one time. Even if you were to freeze yourself down to Absolute Zero and remove yourself from the effects of time, you are still in the same place at the same time and time around you is still moving forward. Time Travel is just not realistic and possible. While you could build a transporter device from say a space station to the planet below, the closest possible actual method to do this would be spacial folding to open a wormhole between the station and the surface at which you would step off the space station to the planet surface or the opposite, but it would still be the same day at the same time. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Alloy - 2011-01-18 Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:I don't see how this theory would be feasible. No mass, gravity, or energy can occupy more than any one place in space-time. That's not true. Some sub-atomic particles naturally do jumps in time in small frames already. It has been proven to be possible, just not this deep. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - ChaosH - 2011-01-18 LF> Explanation for time paradoxes. Until they explain things like "what happens if you travel to the past and kill yourself", time travel is impossible IMHO. Also, what "past" and "future" really means, anyways? Where are our past actions "stored"? How can future exist if we didn't get there yet? What is present, if "now" is the future of "before" and the past of "after"? Etc... Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - FanaticRat - 2011-01-18 Corn Wrote:Too bad time travel will never happen, because if it did happen, then we would see time travelers from the future, but that obviously didn't happen yet, so it'll never happen. .
Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - AzureKite - 2011-01-18 How would we even know if this turned out successful? Governments would probably keep this very hushed. Unless info on it gets leaked out on the internet. That is why I always hoped we would fail with time travel technology lmao. But at least it looks like we'll be making progress with quantum teleportation hopefully. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Jamie_Kurosawa - 2011-01-19 Very true. Technology like this would have to be kept extremely top secret. In the right hands it could be beneficial, but in the wrong hands, a complete road to ruin. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - octopusprime - 2011-01-20 I'm so vested in time travel being impossible that if it becomes possible within my lifetime, i will travel back in time to erase time travel. EDIT: Hey guise, message from da future, time travel is not possible... anymore! BlTCHEZ EDIT 2: It's a road to ruin no matter whose hands it is, good, bad, girlscout, someone who tries to erase timetravel, it doesnt matter in the end. biological zombie microwaves take over the future! destroy... the microwaves. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - TKWizard - 2011-01-21 If time travel does exist, it would not really affect our timeline as the traveller would be in another dimension from ours and could cause as much wreckage as possible w/o affecting ours. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Alex123123 - 2011-01-21 Corn Wrote:Too bad time travel will never happen, because if it did happen, then we would see time travelers from the future, but that obviously didn't happen yet, so it'll never happen. Our dimension could be the "original one". The real present, the one extreme of the timeline where the future does not exist. \took that out of my raccoon's brain hole. Obviously, I don't know anything about time travel science. Scientists Discover Time Teleportation - Shidoshi - 2011-01-21 Do note the time travel spoken in the article is only on the direction past -> future. Doing the contrary I believe has been proven impossible by someone I don't remember. You can always travel to the future by going at relativistic speeds anyway. |