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ESTH causes a 37.5% increase in damage for its skills when used with SP - prettygreat - 2011-01-06

So ESTH is supposed to increase damage by 25% for Avenger, right?

So if you were doing 10k damage with a single avenger (15k with SP), you would be doing 12.5k damage (18.75k with SP), right?

Well I'm not seeing this. What I'm seeing is an extra 25% damage on my SP as well, meaning I'm getting 62.5% damage from SP rather than the usual 50%.

This means that including SP, ESTH causes a 37.5% damage increase, not 25%.

As proven here:
[Image: maple0010o.jpg]

11051/17683 = 0.0624939915, roughly 65%.

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7062 / 11 300 = 0.624955752


ESTH causes a 37.5% increase in damage for its skills when used with SP - Shidoshi - 2011-01-06

I'd prefer if the screenshot that proves your point is actually presented in a way we can see which class and which skill is being used.


ESTH causes a 37.5% increase in damage for its skills when used with SP - Alloy - 2011-01-06

Shidoshi Wrote:I'd prefer if the screenshot that proves your point is actually presented in a way we can see which class and which skill is being used.

No need for that though. Just look at the particular numbers. The top one... isn't 50% the bottom one. That alone is enough reason to think this is awesome.


ESTH causes a 37.5% increase in damage for its skills when used with SP - prettygreat - 2011-01-06

Shidoshi Wrote:I'd prefer if the screenshot that proves your point is actually presented in a way we can see which class and which skill is being used.

Happy now?


ESTH causes a 37.5% increase in damage for its skills when used with SP - Beg - 2011-01-06

Similar thing happens to raw multipliers with Shadowers too. Their 1.25x passive buff to SB/BoT/Steal/Assaulter off max Bstep affects SPs multiplier (0.5 x 1.25 = 0.625, discrepancies are caused by rounding most likely) when those skills are used. Assassinate charge up scaling for SP also takes it from 50% when uncharged to 250% when fully charged.

They must work in the same way.


ESTH causes a 37.5% increase in damage for its skills when used with SP - Shidoshi - 2011-01-06

Don't come all up against me. Can't base a theory on something with screens that could very well be of a mage doing magic claw or something of the sort.
Now it's all good.


ESTH causes a 37.5% increase in damage for its skills when used with SP - Alloy - 2011-01-06

Ironically, remember the pyramid pq buff glitch? If you saw the resulting damage, you'd see amazing stuff. Mainly, stuff like SHADOW PARTNER HITTING EVEN MORE THAN YOU. It works like this: Shadow partner is calculated as 50% the total damage you deal...

However, when you add x2 to it, for example... it makes this: You deal 200% on your normal hits... and then it calculates 50% x2... off that 200%. Results? 200% two times. 300% already beats your own damage.

In our case, 25% makes it grow on the normal attacks like it has to: 125% the usual damage. However, shadow partner increases by 25% that, too... SO, 25% off 50% is 12.5% added to 50%. Making that 62.5% off shadow partner from enhanced attacks by this.

And look at that! It matches the numbers!

EDIT: Ok, I kinda missed the other explanation, but yeah, same thing.