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Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - Erebus - 2010-11-17

Male star leads field hockey team. Is he an unfair edge?
Yahoo Wrote:Wyoming Seminary in Forty Fort, Pa., is a traditional field hockey powerhouse, so it's no surprise that it's back in contention for a state title, with a berth in the state championship game on the line Wednesday afternoon in Seminary's faceoff with Crestwood (Pa.) High (the semifinal against Crestwood was originally scheduled for Tuesday afternoon but was postponed by bad weather). What is surprising is how Seminary is advancing through the playoffs, on the back of a male player who is singlehandedly dominating all Seminary's opponents.

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That player is Cornelius Tietze, a junior and German native who joined the Seminary field hockey team this season and has played as the squad's lone male player ... and the only boy on the field in practically all of 24-2 Seminary's games, for that matter. In his last two outings, Tietze led his team to a 4-3 victory over District 3-AA runner-up Donegal with three goals and an assist, and a 4-2 win against Villa Maria, a game in which he again scored three goals.


The CitizensVoice.com game story of Wyoming Seminary's victory against Villa Maria makes it clear just how dominant the German can be. The junior scored the game's first goal, then helped Seminary rebound after it allowed two goals with both a lone-man breakaway goal and the game-winning score just minutes later.
Tietze's dominance has sparked renewed questions of the fairness in allowing a male athlete to play in a sport traditionally played in America by girls alone. Last week, PennLive.com asked that question and received a largely rancorous attack against male participation, with the exception of the two posters who actually were field hockey players. Those posters -- one a female player and the other a male player -- defended his participation, saying that the only people who really cared were the field hockey parents, not the athletes themselves.

Of course, that may change if Tietze leads Wyoming Seminary to the fourth state title in the past 10 seasons. For her part, the coach of Seminary's most recent vanquished foe left little doubt about who made the biggest difference in her team's final game of the season.
"He's just so quick. That's the quickest kid we've seen all year," Villa Maria coach Maureen Polley told CitizensVoice.com. "We worked hard and knew what we had to do and we did a good job on him for awhile but then his athleticism just took over."
That sounds like a picture perfect rationalization of how boys playing in a female sport can have a significant competitive advantage. Whether that is eventually determined fair or unfair to all involved -- including Tietze himself -- remains to be seen. The one thing that does remain certain is that the debate he's helped stir up won't end any time soon.

I suppose it's only breaking glass ceilings when it's reversed in other situations.


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - Rob - 2010-11-17

There should be Female and Male hockey. I don't get what the problem is here.


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - OB3LISK - 2010-11-17

LOL I smiled at the thought of one guy single handedly dominating a sport.

And hell no this bullshit with woman equality is a double standard.

1. Women need to be able to do anything a man can.
2. Men can't do that that's a woman thing, be a gentlemen dumb mofo.

Personally I think he's fine.


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - Fiel - 2010-11-17

I think it's sexist that men can't naturally have children. I will appeal to senators so that everyone can treat me the way I want to be treated.


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - Shidoshi - 2010-11-17

Men and women should have the same rights (under law). They are not equal and will never be, there are differences between men and women that can't be ignored.

There is a reason why most sport competitions are separated in male/female. However, the differences don't stop at physical. Men and women think differently, each is better at some things more than the other.


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - Corn - 2010-11-17

Well, the sport isn't officially divided there, so it's alright for him...


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - Hazzy - 2010-11-17

This story cites a case where a male on a female team dominates, but ignores cases where coed teams work well together or cases where a female on a male team dominates.

When almost every instance of a male on a female team provides a gender-based edge, there is a problem. Without knowing about coed teams in general, people are in no position to criticize the ethics of it in general.

How is this different than an athletic girl who dominates in the same manor?


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - KaidaTan - 2010-11-18

Hazzy Wrote:This story cites a case where a male on a female team dominates, but ignores cases where coed teams work well together or cases where a female on a male team dominates.

When almost every instance of a male on a female team provides a gender-based edge, there is a problem. Without knowing about coed teams in general, people are in no position to criticize the ethics of it in general.

How is this different than an athletic girl who dominates in the same manor?
Just out of curiosity, what sports do females dominate?


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - Erich - 2010-11-18

In all seriousness, if there's no male team, it's fair. He's probably the stronger person, so that's it. They're just mad that he's male and is interested in doing it and they didn't get that spot.


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - Hazzy - 2010-11-19

KaidaTan Wrote:Just out of curiosity, what sports do females dominate?

I find it hard to believe that there is not even one case of a female on an otherwise all-male team who does better than a majority of the players. Rare? Sure, but in a country of 310 million it is bound to happen.


Story of Sexism: Fairness, Irony, or Hypocrisy? - DeanNim - 2010-11-19

Sexism only exists because of our physical differences. that is all.