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Fighting the new Bigfoot - IsaacGS - 2008-09-10
I think there was a fair amount of concern about what would happen once they fixed Bigfoot. What they decided to go with was the simplest solution, and that is to give it a boss flag. This means no more Dragon Breath and no more stun. unfortunately, they didn't fix the glitched KB frames. that means you can't just stand there and fire away keeping it KBed, either. So, what to do?
Here's what I figured out. It took me an hour to kill it this way, but I'm sure with SE it would take significantly less time.
![[Image: isaacbigfootsoloda3.jpg]](http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9818/isaacbigfootsoloda3.jpg)
you see where I'm standing? Here's what I learned:
If you puppet on the higher platform, Bigfoot can't reach it. He'll jump and jump, but he can't get high enough. However, he can get up by using the other two platforms. To deal with this, you need to put the puppet as close to the center of the platform as possible. Additionally, when Bigfoot starts heading toward the extremes, you must attack. Once you do this, he'll turn around upon exiting the KB animation and head back towards puppet. You can use this to your advantage if your puppet is too far to one side to keep him on the ground. When puppet dies, you need to recast it immediately.
If you should somehow lose control of bigfoot, there's another thing you can try. Bigfoot can get on the top platform, and you can put the puppet beneath him. In this manner you can alternate between keeping him up top and on the floor as needed. In the event that you completely lose him and he wanders off to the right, you can also keep him on the ground near the portal by putting the puppet onto the smaller platform on the left side, but it's easier for him to break out of this. This is a good stopgap measure to give you more time to set up the puppet in a proper location.
The kicker here is that if you stand on the smaller platform, it casts puppet on the floor. So, if you want it to go on the larger platform, you'll need to stand on that platform to get it up there. It can be pretty close, but don't be too afraid: Bigfoot's hitbox isn't as large as it appears. the pole and his hair can't hurt you. Jump anyway to be careful, though. It also takes a fair amount of speed and jump to get away in time. I used cupcakes in emergencies but as you can see I don't have too many of those left. It is possible to get on the mount and leap over it but it's risky, because of the elder wraiths that run about.
if you plan on fighting it at Forgotten Path, try to do it when there's no people around. a DK girl came in while I was doing this and started killing up top. Next thing I know there's Elder wraiths knocking my puppets down and Leprechauns taunting me with the risk of getting stunned. She kept falling for about the last 10% of the fight so it was quite dangerous X_x. I actually got cornered because of this and somehow was blessed by bigfoot missing me. Also, I was able to jump over Bigfoot with my pig without getting hurt. Keep that in mind if he starts cornering you.
Anyone else have any tips for fighting it on other maps? This one can be dangerous if you're not careful because of all the other species of monsters that can appear.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Kevvl - 2008-09-10
Too bad that's the only map it works at =/
What level is your puppet? A maxed puppet should be able to hold off Elders until you kill them off, while keeping Bigfoot slightly busy.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Dusk - 2008-09-10
It's not that hard to hold it even on Evil Rising, if you're strong enough to KB it consistently and you know how to use Puppet. I'm 12x with SE, though.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - FelixTM - 2008-09-10
I've already posted my method for killing Bigfoot around these forums, in multiple topics. Even when Bigfoot was glitched, I always still chose to kill it pure legit. Because of that, I'm already quite experienced at killing them properly. <3 I've solo'd Bigfoot using only Hurricane, Phoenix and Puppet in every different map it spawns in.
It takes a lot of focus, but it's really quite simple. All you have to do is keep Puppet up. The second it dies, cast again. That would suck for low leveled people...but for me it's easy, because it only takes me about 15 minutes (with 12 att pots) to solo one.
If it wasn't missing stupid hitboxes, I could take Bigfoots apart with no trouble and in less than 10 minutes.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - IsaacGS - 2008-09-10
Kevvl Wrote:Too bad that's the only map it works at =/My puppet is 12, but I just kept getting unlucky and the elders were hitting on the high end of their possibility.
What level is your puppet? A maxed puppet should be able to hold off Elders until you kill them off, while keeping Bigfoot slightly busy.
FelixTM Wrote:I've already posted my method for killing Bigfoot around these forums, in multiple topics. Even when Bigfoot was glitched, I always still chose to kill it pure legit. Because of that, I'm already quite experienced at killing them properly. <3 I've solo'd Bigfoot using only Hurricane, Phoenix and Puppet in every different map it spawns in.See, I started to do it on a twisted paths, but whenever I would try to do like you said (your comments about it are what gave me the idea to try this) bigfoot doesn't run through it, but he sits there and does his stomp attack. The problem is, he's got a ton of invincible frames during this attack. Therefore, the entire time he's killing puppet he's pretty much unable to be hit. it made it pretty difficult to fight X_X I gave up and decide to try it there, where I soon discovered this method of keeping it out of his range.
It takes a lot of focus, but it's really quite simple. All you have to do is keep Puppet up. The second it dies, cast again. That would suck for low leveled people...but for me it's easy, because it only takes me about 15 minutes (with 12 att pots) to solo one.
If it wasn't missing stupid hitboxes, I could take Bigfoots apart with no trouble and in less than 10 minutes.
So I guess my question for you is, how do you do this on a flat map when using puppet pretty much renders him invincible?
Fighting the new Bigfoot - FelixTM - 2008-09-10
IsaacGS Wrote:So I guess my question for you is, how do you do this on a flat map when using puppet pretty much renders him invincible?
Hurricane solves that problem. The sheer amount of arrows Hurricane blasts out ensures Bigfoot is being hit the majority of the time. With Puppet, I've even managed to successfully push Bigfoot over half way across a Twisted Paths map before I ended up losing control. Phoenix is another great addition, because he only attacks when he knows he's gonna hit something. And since Bigfoot is Fire-weak, my level 25 Phoenix is putting out 13-15k hits on the sucker.
I doubt it affects the question at hand in any way, but I always stand pretty close to Bigfoot while fighting it, too (Phoenix range, so that it constantly attacks with me). If you hold your ground pretty close to Bigfoot, it's easier to keep casting Puppet a bit farther away each time. This way I can keep control and move him when I need to.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Technolink - 2008-09-10
FelixTM Wrote:I doubt it affects the question at hand in any way, but I always stand pretty close to Bigfoot while fighting it, too (Phoenix range, so that it constantly attacks with me). If you hold your ground pretty close to Bigfoot, it's easier to keep casting Puppet a bit farther away each time. This way I can keep control and move him when I need to.
How do you deal with the jr wraiths? Does phoenix take care of em?
Only asking because when you say you stand within phoenix's range, it seems like a jr. wraith bumping you and a poorly-timed frame for kb can send BF into you.
Than again, it seems I'm wrong, or you'd be dead.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Dusk - 2008-09-11
Isaac, it's more to do with the fact that your Puppet is only 12 than Hurricane. I can hold him with either Strafe or Hurricane (although I do have SE).
Level 20 Puppet will never die in one hit, and can sometimes tank 3-4 hits, so it makes the whole ordeal a lot easier.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Chameleonic - 2008-09-11
FelixTM Wrote:Hurricane solves that problem.
Indeed.
With Strafe, half the shots go through it and if you dont puppet it it eventually runs over you. When I tried it I could just barely keep it KB'd if I got into a rhythm, as every second shot hit it and it gained ground on me all the time...and now DB and Eagle doesnt work on it I'm in more trouble.
Nexon please go back to the drawing board...
Fighting the new Bigfoot - FelixTM - 2008-09-11
Technolink Wrote:How do you deal with the jr wraiths? Does phoenix take care of em?
Only asking because when you say you stand within phoenix's range, it seems like a jr. wraith bumping you and a poorly-timed frame for kb can send BF into you.
Than again, it seems I'm wrong, or you'd be dead.
Yeah, Phoenix handles a lot of them. I prevent a lot of them from getting to me by turning around and doing a few quick Hurricanes sometimes, too.
I decided to flaunt my Bigfoot soloing skills some more tonight and have some fun with a few Nibfeets. The pictures are posted in the Boss Battles thread.
It's such an easy boss. I'm working on developing a pretty successful (possible) pin or, at least, push tactic right now. I was able to hold off and push Bigfoot across a Twisted Paths map for over a full minute without losing control. <3
Fighting the new Bigfoot - ItzLouis - 2008-09-13
ugh I soloed my first bigfoot and took an hour, and no toe T_T
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![[Image: bigfootta4.png]](http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5586/bigfootta4.png)
Anyways thanks for the tip Isaac! It really helped. =D
(btw does anyone know the drop rate of the toe? >.<)
Fighting the new Bigfoot - DarkestTempest - 2008-09-13
![[Image: Maple0008.jpg]](http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/Majestic_wavemaster/Maple0008.jpg)
I don't know. I've killed about seven bigfoots in total, and I've only seen one drop (and it got ks'd by a FP Archmage - it was in the "bigfoot != boss" era).
Fighting the new Bigfoot - IsaacGS - 2008-09-13
ItzLouis Wrote:ugh I soloed my first bigfoot and took an hour, and no toe T_T
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Anyways thanks for the tip Isaac! It really helped. =D
(btw does anyone know the drop rate of the toe? >.<)
DarkestTempest Wrote:Glad this technique worked for you guys. Did either of you get cornered at any point? Or any problem with people walking in and killing up top?Spoiler
I don't know. I've killed about seven bigfoots in total, and I've only seen one drop (and it got ks'd by a FP Archmage - it was in the "bigfoot != boss" era).
Man, I really want SE, I bet it would be extremely helpful.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - ItzLouis - 2008-09-13
Yes I do get cornered. >.<
I found the best way to escape is to open up your inventory and double click on a return scroll. It might bring you back to town, but its better then dying and losing 7% =/
Fighting the new Bigfoot - DarkestTempest - 2008-09-13
Yes, I did get cornered before. I usually just throw a puppet to delay bigfoot while i catch my breath, change channel, and change back. Then I lure bigfoot to the other set of platforms (there are two on the sides).
Fighting the new Bigfoot - IsaacGS - 2008-09-13
DarkestTempest Wrote:Yes, I did get cornered before. I usually just throw a puppet to delay bigfoot while i catch my breath, change channel, and change back. Then I lure bigfoot to the other set of platforms (there are two on the sides).I actually think that return scroll would be a better option. After all, you might end up CCing into a different bigfoot and that wouldn't help you at all.
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Worthyness - 2008-09-13
Isn't there the trusty esc + up + enter?
I've done that a couple of times =P
But seeing as i can't even try to kill this myself, it won't concern me for a while...
Fighting the new Bigfoot - DarkestTempest - 2008-09-15
You lose your current buff by relogging, which include those apples you may be using. Not really a wise option.
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![[Image: Maple0011.jpg]](http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/Majestic_wavemaster/Maple0011.jpg)
Fighting the new Bigfoot - ItzLouis - 2008-09-15
Wow grats on getting your toe. How many Bigfoots have you killed to find that? >.<
I killed a couple of bigfoots and haven't even seen one toe. So I was thinking of getting 2x drop, would 2x drop give it at least a 50% chance of dropping the toe? =(
Fighting the new Bigfoot - Kevvl - 2008-09-15
I got my Toe the first day CwK was out. Some nice Hermit owned it for me with Shadow Web XD
Today, 2 of my friends solo'd Bigfoot (Each killed one). Out of the 2 they killed, we got 1 toe. One of which used the TS's method at FP^^