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Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Sum41 - 2008-08-30
Can be found here.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Cyanne - 2008-08-30
Wait, so you say you're the sole writer of the guide at the top, but at the bottom you say you're not? Somehow I doubt you're the sole writer of the this since you misspelled the title of something you've been working on for hours.
I didn't really go into the math because I think that the classes a pretty well balanced; it's just a decision between which playing style fits you better. This is first evident from 2nd job's arrow bomb vs. iron arrow, and iron arrow's damage has recently been increased. Also, blizzard plays an important role when hunting as a sniper, but rangers rarely use inferno. The differences in playing style are easily shown in 4th job.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Beaner - 2008-08-30
copy pasta from basil makes baby jesus cry
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Mark - 2008-08-30
Holy pomegranate.
Something smells like fish.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - randompeep - 2008-08-30
Notice he says that he is the sole writer of this at the top, then merely a few paragraphs down, he says he isn't the sole writer (you don't even need to scroll down). If he wrote this himself, he should have seen that.
Copy-Paste from SW? :jk:
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Stereo - 2008-08-30
Firing rates aren't that different for Bow/X-Bow :/ In fact all Normal speed weapons do around 83 attacks per minute.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Dyxanije - 2008-08-30
I was only able to read a little bit of this guide since I scrolled down to see how long it was and couldn't tell when a section ends or begins, I suggest you make it easier for the reader and do something to help separate the sections.
Also:
Sum41 Wrote:I am the sole writer of this!!
Sum41 Wrote:This guide was NOT written by me, or to say, me alone. This is a composition of ideas from overly-obsessed Archers at the Archer Guide Forum, which is a fan-made (that fan being me =P) place for the over-analyzation of the Archer class.Many of us are curious about this, care to explain this to us?
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - randompeep - 2008-08-30
Don't forget this:
Quote:Alright, well, first of all I AM NOT THE SOLE WRITER OF THIS GUIDE.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Sum41 - 2008-08-30
I acually am just waiting for the orignal poster to come and see it. I am just posting it cause I am bored xD.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - FrostedIce - 2008-08-30
copy and paste from the one on basil
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Dusk - 2008-08-31
The math in this thread is so wrong it makes me want to cry. Whomever did the math has not been paying attention to any testing we've done in the past three-four years. Arrow Bomb is a static 50% impact damage. That increases the entire table for Arrow Bomb by 14%. Iron Arrow runs off of a 10% damage reduction per monster now. Inferno does 237.5% damage per monster on fire-weak. Bow/Crossbow firing speeds are all 3600/43 = 83.721 shots per minute (plus the "pickup time"). Why does the table for single target damage show Strafe being weaker than Double Shot (not to mention Arrow Blow LOL) at level 70? Gahhh, so much is wrong!
I skimmed over the thread and it looks alright. Not sure why it doesn't cover 4th job, and some of the information is a bit biased. I am a huge Inferno fan, but a some people prefer dropping a few points from it for max MB in 4th job. There were a lot of other debates that were ignored. And actually, why is this even considered in a class choosing guide?
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - tzk221 - 2008-08-31
Sum! *facepalm*
Should we bring the other guides, too?
If anyone wants a link to the source, http://s4.zetaboards.com/Archer_Guide/index/.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - summer - 2008-08-31
Dusk Wrote:The math in this thread is so wrong it makes me want to cry. Whomever did the math has not been paying attention to any testing we've done in the past three-four years. Arrow Bomb is a static 50% impact damage. That increases the entire table for Arrow Bomb by 14%. Iron Arrow runs off of a 10% damage reduction per monster now. Inferno does 237.5% damage per monster on fire-weak. Bow/Crossbow firing speeds are all 3600/43 = 83.721 shots per minute (plus the "pickup time"). Why does the table for single target damage show Strafe being weaker than Double Shot (not to mention Arrow Blow LOL) at level 70? Gahhh, so much is wrong!that was written... what... a year and half ago?
I skimmed over the thread and it looks alright. Not sure why it doesn't cover 4th job, and some of the information is a bit biased. I am a huge Inferno fan, but a some people prefer dropping a few points from it for max MB in 4th job. There were a lot of other debates that were ignored. And actually, why is this even considered in a class choosing guide?
i don't think there was much update going on it for a while...
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - IcyGreenTea - 2008-08-31
I am so sick and tired of this kinda debate. It's solely for stat whores.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Nikkey - 2008-08-31
Sum41 Wrote:Although many people browsed and critiqued our work, there was only a two actual writers; myself (Technolink), and bluebomber24 wrote all of the material in this guide.
Multiple accounts?
Anyway, I'd recommend you to write and include pictures and charts which seems more delicate than just a wall of text next time you post. More tempting to read it then.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - tzk221 - 2008-08-31
Devil's Sunrise Wrote:Multiple accounts?
Anyway, I'd recommend you to write and include pictures and charts which seems more delicate than just a wall of text next time you post. More tempting to read it then.
Quote:There was only a two actual writers; myself (Technolink), and bluebomber24 wrote all of the material in this guide. Spiritrival, Sapphire8, Kevvl14, robinhood, KennethJay, gfreak002, tzkbowman, zedex, and sum41 reviewed, commented, and criticized our work to the point I was editing their posts =].^Explains all.
The reason why there are no pictures or charts is because this was originally meant to be posted on Basil and they don't support images.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Dusk - 2008-08-31
summer Wrote:that was written... what... a year and half ago?
i don't think there was much update going on it for a while...
Oh well, I had no idea, as there is no link to wherever it came from, and no update history.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - tzk221 - 2008-08-31
Dusk Wrote:Oh well, I had no idea, as there is no link to wherever it came from, and no update history.See post #12 for a link to the source.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Russt - 2008-08-31
Copypasta tastes like spam.
Bow or Crossbow | The Ultimate Decision - Beaner - 2008-08-31
tzk221 Wrote:See post #12 for a link to the source.
post 2 also says where its fom