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Counter Strike? - Pikamemnon - 2010-08-20
What exactly does it do and how long does it last? Is it necessary to get hit in order to activate it?
Counter Strike? - Arrg - 2010-08-20
If you take damage (physical, magical, AND falling damage; misses don't count) there's a 40% chance for it to activate.
If it activates, you get +15% total damage for 40(maybe 45 idk) seconds.
Once it ends, you can get it again.
I reccommend maxing 2nd, after cannon.
Counter Strike? - Worthyness - 2010-08-20
how's that work out for a buccaneer's build? would you put points into it before 140?
Counter Strike? - SolicShooter - 2010-08-20
Doesn't that completely contradict the current playing style of corsairs? Avoiding damage to keep the ship alive?
Counter Strike? - Worthyness - 2010-08-20
SolicShooter Wrote:Doesn't that completely contradict the current playing style of corsairs? Avoiding damage to keep the ship alive?
contradicts the playstyle of pirates in general 9range = no touch me; melee = stay invincible). Big bang is truly a big bang. completely new playstyles for al the classes.
Counter Strike? - IllegallySane - 2010-08-20
Worthyness Wrote:contradicts the playstyle of pirates in general 9range = no touch me; melee = stay invincible). Big bang is truly a big bang. completely new playstyles for al the classes.
It's a more aggressive style that doesn't fall victim to gimmicks such as giving invincibility frame abusing in exchange for loldamage, and I'm loving it.
Counter Strike? - FanaticRat - 2010-08-20
SolicShooter Wrote:Doesn't that completely contradict the current playing style of corsairs? Avoiding damage to keep the ship alive?
Corsairs take damage in ship anyways due to magic attacks, you really just try to dismount for the big stuff like 1/1 since you'd do crap damage if you dismounted for every hit. More of a bossing skill than anything.
Counter Strike? - Bribery - 2010-08-20
SolicShooter Wrote:Doesn't that completely contradict the current playing style of corsairs? Avoiding damage to keep the ship alive?
I wouldn't mind getting a few times every 45 seconds for a 15% damage boost.
Didn't Buccs lose their invincibility frames in the Big Bang patch anyways? This skill complements their melee style perfectly then.
Counter Strike? - Arrg - 2010-08-21
Worthyness Wrote:how's that work out for a buccaneer's build? would you put points into it before 140?
I did, I maxed DS then counter then i'm maxing demo. But I quit. I can do an official build if anyone really cares.
Bribery Wrote:I wouldn't mind getting a few times every 45 seconds for a 15% damage boost.
Didn't Buccs lose their invincibility frames in the Big Bang patch anyways? This skill complements their melee style perfectly then.
The only way is to barrage then IMMEDIATELY csb then IMMEDIATELY barrage again.
Counter Strike? - Worthyness - 2010-08-21
i think backspin also provides its normal invincibility rate. backspin dragon strike anyone?
Counter Strike? - SolicShooter - 2010-08-21
FanaticRat Wrote:Corsairs take damage in ship anyways due to magic attacks, you really just try to dismount for the big stuff like 1/1 since you'd do crap damage if you dismounted for every hit. More of a bossing skill than anything.
I was actually talking about training in which you either freeze or KO them in few enough hits so they can't use their magic attack. I never dismount my ship for anything other then weapon cancel since I lag to much for it to be efficient. Not to mention zakum, the boss which I hunt most, has the tendency to 1/1 rapidly after each other.
Counter Strike? - LegendGospel - 2010-08-21
Arrg Wrote:The only way is to barrage then IMMEDIATELY csb then IMMEDIATELY barrage again.
You man I can still own the Dojo????
OMG OMG OMG
Counter Strike? - OrangeGuy - 2010-08-21
No, the only way for 100% invincibliity is now only Barrage spam.
Counter Strike? - Arrg - 2010-08-21
Worthyness Wrote:i think backspin also provides its normal invincibility rate. backspin dragon strike anyone?
Nopety nopes.
LegendGospel Wrote:You man I can still own the Dojo????Yes.
OrangeGuy Wrote:No, the only way for 100% invincibliity is now only Barrage spam.Wrong. Barrage doesn't spam. Barrage>CSB>Barrage>CSB is the only way.
Counter Strike? - Worthyness - 2010-08-21
Arrg Wrote:Wrong. Barrage doesn't spam. Barrage>CSB>Barrage>CSB is the only way.
So this means we can still solo bosses by means we do now? (at least those of us that don't have demo).
Counter Strike? - Tay - 2010-08-21
Arrg Wrote:I did, I maxed DS then counter then i'm maxing demo. But I quit. I can do an official build if anyone really cares.
The only way is to barrage then IMMEDIATELY csb then IMMEDIATELY barrage again.
-shocked-
Counter Strike? - LegendGospel - 2010-08-21
This makes me really happy.
Before the re-balance CSB>DS>CSB>DS invincibility was not possible. As for now in GMS, it's possible. On Big Bang we'll just go back to not be able to do it. I'm used to that.
But you tell me we can CSB>Barrage>CSB>Barrage now and forever? w00t! I just really love doing that.
Just for curiosity, is CSB>Blast invincibility still possible, too? That's a Marauder's best combo. Not that I will use it much now, but just nostalgia curiosity. :O
Counter Strike? - IllegallySane - 2010-08-21
LegendGospel Wrote:This makes me really happy.
Before the re-balance CSB>DS>CSB>DS invincibility was not possible. As for now in GMS, it's possible. On Big Bang we'll just go back to not be able to do it. I'm used to that.
But you tell me we can CSB>Barrage>CSB>Barrage now and forever? w00t! I just really love doing that.
Just for curiosity, is CSB>Blast invincibility still possible, too? That's a Marauder's best combo. Not that I will use it much now, but just nostalgia curiosity. :O
We're able to do it now except they are removing some of the invicibility frames from CSB. Where have you been?
Also, I see little reason to not get hit when we have Counter Attack. We're not MC Hammer. We're Kenshiro/Goku/Luffy, taking it like a man and returning the favor in spades.
Counter Strike? - Arrg - 2010-08-21
Worthyness Wrote:So this means we can still solo bosses by means we do now? (at least those of us that don't have demo).
I guess. Barrage>DS>Barrage would be the best damage, but if you feel like godmoding for sacrificing 50k-ish damage dealt then that's your choice.
Tay Wrote:-shocked-
I don't quit voluntarily, but i have to for college courses, lol.
LegendGospel Wrote:This makes me really happy.
Before the re-balance CSB>DS>CSB>DS invincibility was not possible. As for now in GMS, it's possible. On Big Bang we'll just go back to not be able to do it. I'm used to that.
But you tell me we can CSB>Barrage>CSB>Barrage now and forever? w00t! I just really love doing that.
Just for curiosity, is CSB>Blast invincibility still possible, too? That's a Marauder's best combo. Not that I will use it much now, but just nostalgia curiosity. :O
No. The invincibility frames are mainly just from barrage, csb has a lot less invincibility.
IllegallySane Wrote:We're able to do it now except they are removing some of the invicibility frames from CSB. Where have you been?Yeah, it's definitely worth it for demo, and barrage. The +15% damage is even more for multi-hit skills. +90% for fist, +120% for demo. Added with dice #5 those %s are doubled.
Also, I see little reason to not get hit when we have Counter Attack. We're not MC Hammer. We're Kenshiro/Goku/Luffy, taking it like a man and returning the favor in spades.
It's counter attack, by the way.
Counter Strike? - OrangeGuy - 2010-08-22
Arrg Wrote:Nopety nopes.
Yes.
Wrong. Barrage doesn't spam. Barrage>CSB>Barrage>CSB is the only way.
What? Did they patch Barrage again? This is retarded.