So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7

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So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Erebus - 2010-07-03

Basically i have a MAC (haters gonna hate) and I have XP already partitioned so i think all i need is the upgrade instead of the full version but I'm not sure what version to get so far Professional and Ultimate seem to be my best choices when i look at the comparisons.

But the only difference between those two versions is the last two options, something called "Bitlocker" and the option of working in different languages. I store almost all my data on Flash drives/Flash Keys and though English isn't my first language I'm fine with working with it.

So what I'm hopping to get is some insight from those who may have those versions and tell me which one i should get or if i should get windows 7 at all?

(Price is no object fyi)

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Fiel - 2010-07-03

Bitlocker isn't worth your time. There are better free alternatives such as TrueCrypt. If you want to be able to change languages for Windows (and I mean change the language of the entire OS), then you might want to consider it.

I'm using Windows 7 Home and can still read foreign stuff just fine, including east asian languages. It was like that out of the box - not so for XP which was a pain in the arse to get it working.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Nikkey - 2010-07-03

I have both Ultimate (MSDNAA ftw) and Home, and there's practically no difference for me.

What should be prioritized though, is getting the 64-bit version.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Horusmaster - 2010-07-03

Devil's Sunrise Wrote:What should be prioritized though, is getting the 64-bit version.

no way 64 bit sucks.

MSN constantly freezes up in 64 bit.
Firefox gets memory leak when using flash (like watching videos on youtube) in 64bit. (might be fixed now)
Google chrome lags when type in address bar, until I finally found solution online by disabling some kind of feature on windows 7 that was suppose to "speed up" memory load time.
Basically many software have problems with 64 bit OS.
64 bit OS are for computers with more than 4GB memory, because for 32 bit OS, doesn't matter how much memory your computer have, the OS can only use 4GB. Since most computers nowadays still have less than 4GB memory, 64 bit is useless.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Cyadd - 2010-07-04

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Horusmaster Wrote:no way 64 bit sucks.

MSN constantly freezes up in 64 bit.
Firefox gets memory leak when using flash (like watching videos on youtube) in 64bit. (might be fixed now)
Google chrome lags when type in address bar, until I finally found solution online by disabling some kind of feature on windows 7 that was suppose to "speed up" memory load time.
Basically many software have problems with 64 bit OS.
64 bit OS are for computers with more than 4GB memory, because for 32 bit OS, doesn't matter how much memory your computer have, the OS can only use 4GB. Since most computers nowadays still have less than 4GB memory, 64 bit is useless.

Get a better computer.

I've never had any problems with my 64-bit version of Windows 7 and programs not working properly.[/COLOR]

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Hazzy - 2010-07-04

Cyadd Wrote:Get a better computer.

I've never had any problems with my 64-bit version of Windows 7 and programs not working properly.

This. :/
64 bit runs everything 32 bit fine, and 64 bit stuff. The only annoyance is the two Program Files: "Program Files" and "Program Files (x86)", but if that really bugs you, it can be circumvented with a little attention to program installations.

64 Bit lets you run more RAM. Most new computers have at least 4 GB; Hell, my mom and sister's laptops both have 4 GB.

Windows 7 is also safer. It's virus protection and so forth out performs XP. It's cleaner looking. The only downside is it uses a lot more RAM than XP and takes more space. If you have a GB of RAM, running 7 will push your system. I think Wind7 is 20 GB? Not sure what XP is.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Nikkey - 2010-07-04

Horusmaster Wrote:List of errors.

I've not had any of those software-related issues with 64-bit, but I would suppose really old/ancient computer parts might complain about it. For me, that's not an issue at all.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Horusmaster - 2010-07-04

My hardware is pretty new, (bought this last year)

Quote:Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T6400 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4062MB RAM
Page File: 1757MB used, 6366MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

and I'm not the only one with this issue.
If you were to google firefox memory leak windows 7 64 bit, you're going to see tons of complaints from different people.
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&q=firefox+memory+leak+windows+7+64+bit&aq=1&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=firefox+memory+leak+window&gs_rfai=&fp=7c576e9804149ebd
Same goes for the other 2:
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&q=google+chrome+freezes+windows+7+64+bit&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=7c576e9804149ebd
http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&q=MSN+freezes+windows+7+64+bit&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=7c576e9804149ebd

And finally get 64 bit if ONLY if your computer have over 4GB of memory, 32 bits can handle 4GB of memory.
(Also 64bits computers is slower by a small fraction of a millisecond because the memory address doubled, meaning it takes twice the amount of time for the CPU to process the memory address)

And I think you can only get 32 bit anyways, cause I read somewhere mac doesn't have 64 bit OS.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Erebus - 2010-07-04

Newer models (post 2007 models) do support 64 bit.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Dusk - 2010-07-04

Horusmaster Wrote:And finally get 64 bit if ONLY if your computer have over 4GB of memory, 32 bits can handle 4GB of memory.
(Also 64bits computers is slower by a small fraction of a millisecond because the memory address doubled, meaning it takes twice the amount of time for the CPU to process the memory address)

And I think you can only get 32 bit anyways, cause I read somewhere mac doesn't have 64 bit OS.

Most new computers have 4GB RAM. 32 bit computers can't actually make full use of the 4GB. 64bit is the future. It still has kinks of course, but there's really no reason not to upgrade now.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Kortestanov - 2010-07-04

Fiel Wrote:It was like that out of the box - not so for XP which was a pain in the arse to get it working.

Pain in the ass? It's a matter of checking a checkbox.

Hazzy Wrote:Windows 7 is also safer. It's virus protection and so forth out performs XP. It's cleaner looking. The only downside is it uses a lot more RAM than XP and takes more space. If you have a GB of RAM, running 7 will push your system. I think Wind7 is 20 GB? Not sure what XP is.

Lets begin with the fact that neither of the OS's you mentioned come with bundled virus protection (unless you call defender\security center a "virus protection"). Perhaps you are talking about OS exploits, but these can easily be fixed by updating your XP or installing a third party security software. Additionally, the main reason Windows 7 has less exploits is because the majority of users still use XP, and because Windows 7 is relatively new.

Horusmaster Wrote:64 bit OS are for computers with more than 4GB memory, because for 32 bit OS, doesn't matter how much memory your computer have, the OS can only use 4GB. Since most computers nowadays still have less than 4GB memory, 64 bit is useless.

I'm starting to get the feeling I'm the only person in the world that remembers the REAL reason 64bit is superior (not all this RAM pomegranate) - because it can compute int64\QWORD\long (pick your favorite name to 64bit long integers) without using FPU\MMX\SSE.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Magus - 2010-07-07

Cyadd Wrote:Get a better computer.

You must live in a rather rich town, because that kind of ignorance isn't really that common elsewhere.

Cyadd Wrote:I've never had any problems with my 64-bit version of Windows 7 and programs not working properly.

I have. Keep sticking up for it though, this is pretty funny.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Kalovale - 2010-07-08

While we're at this, I'm trying to install Windows 7 on my new HDD (dualboot but we'll get to that later, when I run into a specific problem). Basically, the drive is set as "Dynamic" now, and I've learned that I need to "shrink" a part of it to make a partition which supports Windows installation. The thing is, my diskpart doesn't have the "shrink" command.

Spoiler

Halp please. Sad

~~Should I use the "Create" command instead?~~

According to this page, creating and shrinking are two distinct commands. I'm stumped now.

Nevermind, apparently shrinking isn't available in an XP's diskpart.

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - ShadyPriest - 2010-07-08

^ Why don't you just use "disk management"?

So i was thinking about getting WIndows 7 - Kalovale - 2010-07-08

ShadyPriest Wrote:^ Why don't you just use "disk management"?

Spoiler

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Could this be the problem?

Can someone translate it into read-able English for me?

Microsoft Wrote:Windows XP Professional supports two types of disk storage: basic and dynamic. Basic disk storage uses partition-oriented disks. A basic disk contains basic volumes (primary partitions, extended partitions, and logical drives).

Dynamic disk storage uses volume-oriented disks, and includes features that basic disks do not, such as the ability to create volumes that span multiple disks (spanned and striped volumes).

pineapple, nevermind, I'm just going to convert it back to Basic disk and see where it leads me.

EDIT: Nevernevermind, I deleted the volume for good. Resuming installation.