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Temp Ban for False Pins? - Hazzy - 2008-08-22
My friend was telling me that Nexon now temp bans accounts for a day if too many wrong pins are entered.
I thought they blocked the IP from logging in for an hour or something.
Am I wrong, or is Nexon really that stupid....
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Five Second Pose - 2008-08-22
It's a 5 minute ban, relax. No IP ban, just that account for ~5minutes.
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Hazzy - 2008-08-22
._.
They actually ban the account?
Why not just block the IP logging in. D:
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Five Second Pose - 2008-08-22
What if it's you putting in the wrong PIN five times? I've done that before, I have to remember three different PINs, and 6 different passwords.
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Hazzy - 2008-08-22
If it's the real owner, then they can't log in for five minutes with the IP or account block.
If it's not the real owner, the account block would stop the real owner. A bot would keep the account 'banned' all day. ._.
Temp Ban for False Pins? - xDae - 2008-08-22
what are you complaining about? I mean come on, you have to be a complete idiot to put in the wrong pin 5 time in a row.
And I tend to like security features that stop people from pin cracking my account
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Yoorah - 2008-08-22
xDae Wrote:what are you complaining about? I mean come on, you have to be a complete idiot to put in the wrong pin 5 time in a row.Re-read his post and think logically for a second.
And I tend to like security features that stop people from pin cracking my account
Anti-hack measures are supposed to penalize the hacker, and not the legitimate owner, whenever possible. With temp bans on accounts instead of IPs, someone could exploit the system to lock out a victim target account. With temp IP bans, only the hacker would get locked out.
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Koriz - 2008-08-22
Old news.
Temp Ban for False Pins? - xDae - 2008-08-22
Yoorah Wrote:Re-read his post and think logically for a second.Think of Nexon's reasoning: Who else but someone who isnt the owner of the account would get the pin wrong 5 times in a row?
Anti-hack measures are supposed to penalize the hacker, and not the legitimate owner, whenever possible. With temp bans on accounts instead of IPs, someone could exploit the system to lock out a victim target account. With temp IP bans, only the hacker would get locked out.
But yes, I can see how constantly blocking someone from their account could be exploitable
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Five Second Pose - 2008-08-22
xDae Wrote:what are you complaining about? I mean come on, you have to be a complete idiot to put in the wrong pin 5 time in a row.
Well, sorry if I try to protect my accounts and have to help friends transfer.
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Hazzy - 2008-08-22
xDae Wrote:Think of Nexon's reasoning: Who else but someone who isnt the owner of the account would get the pin wrong 5 times in a row?
But yes, I can see how constantly blocking someone from their account could be exploitable
The owner would be more likely to get it right though. :f6:
The trusted friend/person who got lucky with random guesses is more likely to get it wrong.
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Cyanne - 2008-08-22
Hazzy Wrote:If it's the real owner, then they can't log in for five minutes with the IP or account block.
If it's not the real owner, the account block would stop the real owner. A bot would keep the account 'banned' all day. ._.
Don't give out your nexon ID?
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Beloved - 2008-08-22
Hazzy Wrote:If it's the real owner, then they can't log in for five minutes with the IP or account block.
If it's not the real owner, the account block would stop the real owner. A bot would keep the account 'banned' all day. ._.
Y'know how easy it is to bypass an ip ban?
I won't say specifically how, but think for a moment how much people have bypassed and made mults on forums.
I'm sure others could think of more complicated ip bans, but it's a really complicated matter. Personally I think it'd be easier by making it so that to unlock the ban, all you'd have to do is answer a question and type in another pin/password. I'm guessing they're planning on using Secret question #1 (?) for this purpose.
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Hazzy - 2008-08-23
Beloved Wrote:Y'know how easy it is to bypass an ip ban?
I won't say specifically how, but think for a moment how much people have bypassed and made mults on forums.
I'm sure others could think of more complicated ip bans, but it's a really complicated matter. Personally I think it'd be easier by making it so that to unlock the ban, all you'd have to do is answer a question and type in another pin/password. I'm guessing they're planning on using Secret question #1 (?) for this purpose.
It's five minutes. By the time you got your IP changed, you'd be able to log in. .__.
And yes, I know how easy it is to bypass IP checks. I've done it before. :x
Temp Ban for False Pins? - WiseAlon32 - 2008-08-23
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:What if it's you putting in the wrong PIN five times? I've done that before, I have to remember three different PINs, and 6 different passwords.
so why not making all the pins the same and all the p/w the same too?
Temp Ban for False Pins? - Five Second Pose - 2008-08-23
I have to remember my friend's accounts, and one of them was hacked, so he changed the password and PIN of those. x.x