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Whats the deal? - ThatWasMyKil - 2010-02-17
When ever i try to connect a new "wireless device" to my router it has a hissy fit and disconnects the previous device that was on it.
For e.g, my windows 7 PC is on it and i want to connect my PS3 BAM - and i cant even get my mac onto it for some reason.
i am confus guys
Whats the deal? - Sn1perJohnE - 2010-02-18
How old is the router? If the router is old enough that it doesnt have MIMO support (multi-in, multi-out), then it could be doing this because of that. Only other reasons I can think of, 1) it has a set limit of connected devices (fixable in the routers settings menu), or 2) it just doesnt allow more than 1 device at a time (unlikely).
Whats the deal? - ThatWasMyKil - 2010-02-18
Its brand new
2 days old. i think its a buggy router i called the company and they said it was because i was using wep, but i think thats bull. they dont want to send out a new one.
Whats the deal? - Sn1perJohnE - 2010-02-18
Yea, WEP wouldnt cause it to disconnected the previously connected device.
Whats the deal? - XTOTHEL - 2010-02-18
Brand, model of router.
Type of wireless adapter on PC?
Whats the deal? - ThatWasMyKil - 2010-02-18
XTOTHEL Wrote:Brand, model of router.
Type of wireless adapter on PC?
Brand - dynalink
Model - RTA1046VW
D-link on my windows 7 Machine (no issues) what ever PS3 uses (no problems) Apple Airport (will dc ever other machine) haven't tryed Wii or Xbox 360. will try tonight with ipod touch and a windows XP computer with D-link adapter.
I think i can honestly say the routers fucked - im contemplating going and getting a D-Link router. my ISP said they will not replace it because there is a work around (changing connection encryption to WPA) but i cbf.
Whats the deal? - singularity - 2010-02-18
ThatWasMyKil Wrote:I think i can honestly say the routers pineappleed - im contemplating going and getting a D-Link router. my ISP said they will not replace it because there is a work around (changing connection encryption to WPA) but i cbf.Why are you using WEP?
Quote:A team of FBI agents demonstrated current WEP-cracking techniques and broke a 128 bit WEP key in about three minutes.Source: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24251&Itemid=100
That article is from 2005, so WEP could be cracked even faster on modern hardware. So someone can hack into your network and start doing p2p with your bandwidth, possibly even getting your parents in legal trouble with RIAA/MPAA or your country's equivalent. [Or if it's a skilled hacker, they could get into your network and do some man-in-the-middle SSL attack (e.g., via http://www.thoughtcrime.org/software/sslsniff/) to get your parents' banking/credit card info.] You should be using WPA with AES or WPA2.
If the router still chokes up on WPA/WPA2, then you should buy a separate router and connect that to a LAN port on that device. If you do buy a separate router, I recommend one that can support a third-party firmware (e.g., DD-WRT, Tomato, OpenWRT, etc.). Reason being is that I think third-party firmwares get better development (first-party firmware tends to no longer get updates after 1st yr.), have better features, are more robust, and are more stable.
Whats the deal? - ThatWasMyKil - 2010-02-18
singularity Wrote:Why are you using WEP?Source: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24251&Itemid=100
That article is from 2005, so WEP could be cracked even faster on modern hardware. So someone can hack into your network and start doing p2p with your bandwidth, possibly even getting your parents in legal trouble with RIAA/MPAA or your country's equivalent. [Or if it's a skilled hacker, they could get into your network and do some man-in-the-middle SSL attack (e.g., via http://www.thoughtcrime.org/software/sslsniff/) to get your parents' banking/credit card info.] You should be using WPA with AES or WPA2.
Its not under my perants name. my WEP key is longer then my WPA key and no one in Brunswick has FBI computing resources, WEP is still quite secure as it took me over a week to crack next doors and it was a few words.
singularity Wrote:If the router still chokes up on WPA/WPA2, then you should buy a separate router and connect that to a LAN port on that device. If you do buy a separate router, I recommend one that can support a third-party firmware (e.g., DD-WRT, Tomato, OpenWRT, etc.). Reason being is that I think third-party firmwares get better development (first-party firmware tends to no longer get updates after 1st yr.), have better features, are more robust, and are more stable.
Connect it to a lan port? are you suggesting i use the wireless router i buy as a repeater or something, when i could just use the router as a router?
I have never used 3rd party software on a router what are the benefits?
thanks for your suggestions
Whats the deal? - singularity - 2010-02-18
Eh, my bad. It depends on how much traffic is transmitted in your wireless network. All the wireless hacks need to capture packets to analyze. If you have lots of wireless activity, it will be cracked in a short time; if you don't, then it will take longer.
ThatWasMyKil Wrote:Connect it to a lan port? are you suggesting i use the wireless router i buy as a repeater or something, when i could just use the router as a router?That device you have is a modem+router all-in-one. I was assuming you're using it as such. So I recommended that you get a router-only device to use for wired/wireless networking. (So you still need a modem: you could turn off wireless on that dynalink device and use it as a modem only or it might have a modem-only setting, or you need another device that's just a modem.)
I have never used 3rd party software on a router what are the benefits?
thanks for your suggestions
As for third-party router firmware, I gave a list of what users of such firmware commonly think the benefits are -- most of its benefits are probably due to it using Linux under the hood. I suppose I should list some cons as well for balance: almost always will void warranty, you might brick the router (i.e., make it unusable/broken), hardware support (not an issue if you research and buy a device that will work). If you still want to consider going this route, you should well research it first.
To get you started,
Here's DD-WRT's wiki: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Wikibooks entry about the Tomato firmware: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Tomato_Firmware