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Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - MrSoyMilk - 2009-08-21
As the title says, do you prefer dexless Dawn Warrior or dexless Night Walker? Please share your opinion!
In my opinion, dexless DW is a bit cheaper to fund and powerful, with flashy moves (soul rush, soul blade, soul driver). DW also got a lot more fun to play compared to regular warriors because of soul rush (faster movement). Dexless NW is also fun to play because it attacks faster and move with more speed. NW also got fun moves like vampire and poison bomb. I got a lv 80 DW, but I'd like to hear both sides of the story!
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Corn - 2009-08-21
DW= MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS
NW=Needs moar pylons....I meant HP.
That sums it up for me.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Dusk - 2009-08-21
Read: DW vs. NW
Having 4 dex doesn't make you a totally different class.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Kalovale - 2009-08-21
Dmg-wise:
4 base dex > 20 base dex
Gameplay-wise:
How should I know? I mean, can you compare, really?
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - MasPan - 2009-08-21
ClawofBeta Wrote:DW= MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS[color="#cc8899"]
NW=Must construct additonal pylons....I meant HP.
That sums it up for me.
You were doing it wrong. I prefer DW, I could care less about STATless. I simply like warriors. Playing a ranged character (other than my Outlaw, who I love - flying backwards seems much more useful to me than forwards) just feels wrong to me.[/COLOR]
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Greg22 - 2009-08-21
Dawn Warriors are superior in pretty much every way. They have a great arsenal of attacks, and focus on what normal Heroes lacked the most; mobility and mob attacks. By level 120, a Dawn Warrior has roughly 8.2k HP, allowing them to enjoy bosses such as Pap, Manon, Griffey, Leviathan, and Pianus (All of which a Night Walker CANNOT survive, period). Night Walkers may dish out the most damage, but what good is it if they can't even make good use of it at area bosses, or even lower tier bosses such as Pap? Just like their Night Lord counterpart, they only have ONE ATTACK, TRIPLETHROW TRIPLETHROW TRIPLETHROW. After reaching 120, you're not going to be training on anything, so what good is that flashy little posion bat thing?
Nothing good at all.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Takebacker - 2009-08-21
ClawofBeta Wrote:DW= MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS
NW=Needs moar pylons....I meant HP.
That sums it up for me.
I never miss, i'm dexless, and my base acc is exactly what you're supposed to have to hit any trainable mob at or above it's level (138).
My neos pants are clean too.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - IllegallySane - 2009-08-21
Be stuck with a ~3.3k HP girly ninja star thrower vs a ~8.2k HP tank who can mob as well as he can kill one-on-one?
Hahaha........... yup.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Ryukiroku - 2009-08-21
This thread is beginning to make me sad,
but being pretty much a seasoned NL/NW type person thing does that to me and I would have to agree with everyone else that DWs are so much better than NWs. They've got killer damage, mobility, and the added bonus of having over 2.5~3x more hp than whatever a NW could hope to have(talking hp of course) plus the flashy skills also.(As much as I love vampire)
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Viper - 2009-08-22
I just went with NW, because I can't play any other class. :p
And it's not like us KoC's are meant for bossing anyways, we're mostly used for the +12 atk boost.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Shady - 2009-08-22
Greg Wrote:Dawn Warriors are superior in pretty much every way. They have a great arsenal of attacks, and focus on what normal Heroes lacked the most; mobility and mob attacks. By level 120, a Dawn Warrior has roughly 8.2k HP, allowing them to enjoy bosses such as Pap, Manon, Griffey, Leviathan, and Pianus (All of which a Night Walker CANNOT survive, period). Night Walkers may dish out the most damage, but what good is it if they can't even make good use of it at area bosses, or even lower tier bosses such as Pap? Just like their Night Lord counterpart, they only have ONE ATTACK, TRIPLETHROW TRIPLETHROW TRIPLETHROW. After reaching 120, you're not going to be training on anything, so what good is that flashy little posion bat thing?You're forgetting the most important factor: opinion. Alwasy the pomegranate about bosses/ damage/ HP and such. Can't people have fun without killing bosses? You prefer DW. Ok, fine with me. You hate/ don't like NW, then don't bash them.
Nothing good at all.
-> I like to play my NW.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Dyxanije - 2009-08-22
Shady Wrote:You're forgetting the most important factor: opinion. Alwasy the pomegranate about bosses/ damage/ HP and such. Can't people have fun without killing bosses? You prefer DW. Ok, fine with me. You hate/ don't like NW, then don't bash them.
-> I like to play my NW.
You're forgetting the most important factor: opinion. Anyway, the s[SIZE="2"]h[/SIZE]it about NOT bossing/damage/Hp and such. Can't people care about that stuff without b[SIZE="2"]i[/SIZE]tches getting on their case? ;-; You prefer NW? Ok, fine with me. You hate/dislike DW? The don't lecture people.
-> I like to play my DW.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Kalovale - 2009-08-22
Am I the only one that plays both?
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Takebacker - 2009-08-22
Shady Wrote:You're forgetting the most important factor: opinion. Alwasy the pomegranate about bosses/ damage/ HP and such. Can't people have fun without killing bosses? You prefer DW. Ok, fine with me. You hate/ don't like NW, then don't bash them.
-> I like to play my NW.
Fact: NWs have low HP.
Fact: NWs can't boss for s'hit because of their low HP.
Fact: DWs are the exact opposite of the above facts.
Shady Wrote:Can't people have fun without killing bosses?
Doing what? You're not training. You can't PQ. Questing for the majority is not fun. What the f'uck else are you going to do for fun as a 120 cygnus?
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Holypie - 2009-08-22
Sell leech as a BW? Use a BW to get another Cygnus up? BW is fun.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Takebacker - 2009-08-22
Holypie Wrote:Sell leech as a BW? Use a BW to get another Cygnus up? BW is fun.
Anyone who would buy leech when an AM could do it way easier for probably the same price is retarded.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Kawasari Mimoto - 2009-08-22
My Night Lord is my main. From personal experiences... =D ....
Dawn Warrior > Night Walkers in every way possible. NWs would have a 'bit' of an advantage had DWs not have Soul Runner, but they do. Now that Warriors have an ability that gives them speed, NWs are pretty much obsolete. Only thing they can KS are Sins and any of the weaker classes that are Advens, I'd only make a NW for CPQ (maybe).
A DW is significantly better because of:
-Higher HP (no need to friggin spend over 200+ dollars to HP wash on a NW to get a measly amount of HP that isn't even beneficial if you can't even Zakum since you'd be doing crap damage.. rofl. NWs loses in this department.)
-Mobbing + Single target attacks
-Attacks are more fancy
-Has more than a 'single' main attack at the endgame. Oh please, don't even tell me NWs uses Avenger. Most Night Lords I know rarely use Avenger at Skelegons unless it's for sure there's 5+ Skeles in front, that and Avenger's DPS isn't actually magnificent.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Holypie - 2009-08-22
Takebacker Wrote:Anyone who would buy leech when an AM could do it way easier for probably the same price is retarded.
What if you don't have an AM? I mainly meant the second one.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Takebacker - 2009-08-22
Holypie Wrote:What if you don't have an AM? I mainly meant the second one.
Irrelevant babble
Sure, why not. This isn't really the point of the thread though. When i said 120 cygnus i obviously meant DW/NW.
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - Greg22 - 2009-08-22
Shady Wrote:You're forgetting the most important factor: opinion. Alwasy the pomegranate about bosses/ damage/ HP and such. Can't people have fun without killing bosses? You prefer DW. Ok, fine with me. You hate/ don't like NW, then don't bash them.
-> I like to play my NW.
It's not bashing; OP asked us why we prefer one Cygnus over another, and a Night Walker's garbage HP and limited attacks are the first thing to come to mind. Night Walkers cannot kill bosses, and that sucks. If anyone disagrees, then they're just trying too hard to enjoy their class.