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Sudden Attack - JoeTang - 2009-06-17
It's better.
Without Sudden Attack, a Night Walker with maxed TT, SP, and CT will do, on average
1425%/s
With Sudden Attack on, a Night Walker will do
1456%/s
Using Sudden Attack before every attack, you are effectively 2% (i.e. 1.02x) stronger.
Cheers.
Sudden Attack - kingdj333 - 2009-06-17
EPIC.... JUST epic
Sudden Attack - Heliocentric - 2009-06-17
Just another reason to max Sudden Attack first.
Sudden Attack - Dusk - 2009-06-17
Holy pomegranate 2% brb changing pants
How much does a Windbreaker benefit from their Warcraft 3 Blademaster ripoff skill?
Sudden Attack - JoeTang - 2009-06-17
Heliocentric Wrote:Just another reason to max Sudden Attack first.
Actually, no. It's only stronger if you have Shadow Partner.
Dusk Wrote:Holy pomegranate 2% brb changing pants
How much does a Windbreaker benefit from their Warcraft 3 Blademaster ripoff skill?
With Wind Shot, 1.3x damage. With Hurricane, 0.29x damage, with my estimate.
Sudden Attack - Takebacker - 2009-06-17
I don't get it. WBs version is exactly the same, and their increase is so much higher with wind shot. :[
Sudden Attack - JoeTang - 2009-06-17
Takebacker Wrote:I don't get it. WBs version is exactly the same, and their increase is so much higher with wind shot. :[
Just goes to show you.
Sudden Attack - Dusk - 2009-06-17
Takebacker Wrote:I don't get it. WBs version is exactly the same, and their increase is so much higher with wind shot. :[
It's because Wind Shot might as well be two attacks. It's slow and powerful. Like how Barrage might as well be four attacks.
Sudden Attack - Takebacker - 2009-06-17
Dusk Wrote:It's because Wind Shot might as well be two attacks. It's slow and powerful. Like how Barrage might as well be four attacks.
You're saying this stuff only matters if the attack you're using is anywhere from 1 to a few shots that hit really high then? Fair enough, i guess.
2nd job NW is packed anyway. Lol.
Sudden Attack - Dusk - 2009-06-17
Takebacker Wrote:You're saying this stuff only matters if the attack you're using is anywhere from 1 to a few shots that hit really high then? Fair enough, i guess.
2nd job NW is packed anyway. Lol.
The stronger/slower the attack you use following the Sudden Attack the more useful it is. With Wind Shot you sacrifice a few milliseconds doing nothing to improve your DPS for 1.26 seconds. With Sudden Attack you sacrifice the same amount of time to improve your DPS for only .6 seconds. See how that works? The damage increase applies to the next "skill" instead of boosting your damage for a certain amount of time. If you had an attack that took 10 times as long as Triple Throw but did 10 times the damage, you would be dealing the same DPS normally, but the difference lies in the longer attack only needing one cast of Sudden Attack to get the same damage boost to Triple Throw that would take 10 casts.
Sudden Attack - JoeTang - 2009-06-17
In comparison, L7 would do 0.93x damage with Sudden Attack every time.
Sudden Attack - Arrg - 2009-06-17
Saves a crapton of stars, too.
Because you don't have soul-star or shadow claw or whatever the hell you call it.
Think things through.
Sudden Attack - Mejust - 2009-06-22
Dusk Wrote:Holy pomegranate 2% brb changing pants
This.
Sudden Attack - Loose - 2009-06-22
Night Walkers are overpowered because of this!
It needs to be nerfed to only 1% better or lower.
Sudden Attack - Greg22 - 2009-06-22
Loose Wrote:Night Walkers are overpowered because of this!
It needs to be nerfed to only 1% better or lower.
Well, they're the counterpart of the most broken of jobs; what do you expect?
Sudden Attack - Russt - 2009-06-22
JoeTang Wrote:Actually, no. It's only stronger if you have Shadow Partner.Well, that's assuming Wind Walk is instant. "doesn't really slow you down much" (as quoted from skill tables) != instant. Even 0.1 second delay would bring that figure down by 10%.
With Wind Shot, 1.3x damage. With Hurricane, 0.29x damage, with my estimate.
Sudden Attack - JoeTang - 2009-06-22
I'm assuming Wind Walk is as instantaneous as Dark Sight, or at the least, takes less than 1.26 seconds to cast. From video observation, it obviously takes less than 1.26 seconds.