To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Printable Version

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Printable Version

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To the zhelm buyers for KoM - xxHannabixx - 2009-05-12

I would like to take this time to tell you (our buyers) that we apologize for any inconvenience caused in the delay of you getting your shiny new zhelm.
It appears as of Sunday May 10th. The Altar has been closed. We have asked around and no one seems to have been able to zak.
We appreciate your patience as we wait for Nexon to fix this issue.

Yours Kindly,
iReflection

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - TugboatWilly - 2009-05-12

seems a certain guild is back to their old tricks. Hurt

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Mark - 2009-05-18

Excellent needs a permanent vacation.

Quote:Originally Posted by gx725 View Post
It seems the iq level in scania is not very high... lolol @ bugs theories tho it gave us a good laugh =). Anyone not able to receive a z helm from the z helm guild of their choice may come to ch 13 fm 3 and purchase one from babycoreanz shop. =P Have a nice day

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I dunno about you guys, but I think it's time to get these kids banned again. They don't seem to understand how to play nice.

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - MasPan - 2009-05-18

[color="#cc8899"]This is one of the major double standards in Maple that annoys me -
It's ok to hoarde scrolls, equips, etc in order to become the sole distributor and inflate prices, but when people do it with bosses it's suddenly a bad thing. I personally think both are low and greedy, as they keep normal people from enjoying something that should be a lot more open/common than it is forced to be.

Tldr: This sucks for the people that can't Zak, but it's nothing different than item hoarding, which most people seem to accept as ok.[/COLOR]

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Rick - 2009-05-18

Actually, it would only be the same if said people were to camp every single monster that drops *scroll* and completely prevent others from accessing it, just to drive the price up. That's what Excellent did with Zakum, held EVERY channel and raised their helm prices. The supply is not from the people, it is from the monster, and Excellent cut it off.

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Mark - 2009-05-18

MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]This is one of the major double standards in Maple that annoys me -
It's ok to hoarde scrolls, equips, etc in order to become the sole distributor and inflate prices, but when people do it with bosses it's suddenly a bad thing. I personally think both are low and greedy, as they keep normal people from enjoying something that should be a lot more open/common than it is forced to be.

Tldr: This sucks for the people that can't Zak, but it's nothing different than item hoarding, which most people seem to accept as ok.[/COLOR]

Wat? You can't compare Scroll hoarding to Boss hoarding. That's just ridiculous. Scrolls can be found by anyone. Bosses should be the same. What this guild is doing is extremely childish and they need to be banned. (Again.)

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - MasPan - 2009-05-18

Opeth Wrote:Wat? You can't compare Scroll hoarding to Boss hoarding. That's just ridiculous. Scrolls can be found by anyone. Bosses should be the same. What this guild is doing is extremely childish and they need to be banned. (Again.)

While the scale and impact of it are different, the core idea is the same - make it so that people have little to no choice but to come to you to get what they want/what you have. Boss hoarding happens to be more effective, but the idea and motivation behind it is still to eliminate competition and make the hoader the primary or sole producer. I highly agree that what they're doing is childish, and yes, they should be banned. However, it's frustrating that merchants can do the same thing in the FM and never be criticized.

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Mark - 2009-05-18

There's a fine line between capitalism and being a jackass.

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - MasPan - 2009-05-18

Opeth Wrote:There's a fine line between capitalism and being a jackass.

[color="#cc8899"]True capitalism, as with true socialism, doesn't work - this was proved with the oil, steel, railroad, etc monopolies in American history, where the government had to step in to lower ridiculous pricing and control of the above (especially with the bribing/manipulative power said control granted). It only thrives when there is competition. Remove the competition and you remove the oppurtunity for a new group to succeed. This is precisely what is going on now, in both the FM, and, to a more noteworthy extent, Zakum's altar. Both circumstances prevent healthy competition, however, and are attempts to become the sole provider of ____.

I do agree, again, that what they are doing is downright low. Only point I'm trying to make is that it's only a natural extension of how players treat the economy in gMS as is, and shouldn't be a shocking development to anyone. In fact, I'm more amazed that this isn't happening more frequently, considering how easily it can be accomplished by a small group.[/COLOR]

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - JoeTang - 2009-05-18

MasPan Wrote:[color="#cc8899"]True capitalism, as with true socialism, doesn't work - this was proved with the oil, steel, railroad, etc monopolies in American history, where the government had to step in to lower ridiculous pricing and control of the above (especially with the bribing/manipulative power said control granted). It only thrives when there is competition. Remove the competition and you remove the oppurtunity for a new group to succeed. This is precisely what is going on now, in both the FM, and, to a more noteworthy extent, Zakum's altar. Both circumstances prevent healthy competition, however, and are attempts to become the sole provider of ____.

I do agree, again, that what they are doing is downright low. Only point I'm trying to make is that it's only a natural extension of how players treat the economy in gMS as is, and shouldn't be a shocking development to anyone. In fact, I'm more amazed that this isn't happening more frequently, considering how easily it can be accomplished by a small group.[/COLOR]

You think it's easy to maintain the altar 24/7 with a "small group"?

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - MasPan - 2009-05-18

JoeTang Wrote:You think it's easy to maintain the altar 24/7 with a "small group"?

Small group being 100 or less people. When a server is on the scale of tens of thousands, that's small.

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Kabanaw - 2009-05-18

I think it's stupid to let Merchants take all the scrolls and hoard them as well. Let's say I went to every grocery store and bought every apple in all of them. Then if people want delicious apples, they would have to come to me. However, I'm charging extra for them. Sure, there will be more apples, but not a lot for a while.

After writing this I thought "Oh wait Onyx Apples"

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Colyo - 2009-05-20

Just when I was ready to believe they finally decided to play nice.

Someone needs to kick their fat asses IRL, frankly. They really need a good beating to learn their place.

To the zhelm buyers for KoM - Black Mage - 2009-06-19

the game is dumb because it makes it easy to hoard zakum channels. camping them is abuse of game mechanics, but the thing most in the wrong is the freaking game for making it easy to do this and having no mechanisms for kicking out afk people or open up more channels.

i hoard overall dex 10%s in scania sue meeeeeeeee