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Post your games! - MasPan - 2013-09-25
Imagine Wrote:edit: 1st soloq game[COLOR="#cc8899"]
no one on the other team even understood how to play the game
![[Image: IrqVGZX.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/IrqVGZX.jpg)
Except for Soraka and Cait, their builds are ok at least, so they had to have SOME idea what they were doing... Hecarim's is questionable more from an expense standpoint (he likely got the trinity too late to matter) but not horrible. Soraka's build is pure ass and Cait rushed a PD...
Orianna and Volibear look like they at least tried - solid CS on Orianna for a team that far behind and she at least picked up a Zhonya's. No exhaust and unreliable cc also hurts when an enemy Trist is snowballing.
Good win[/COLOR]
Post your games! - TheTempest - 2013-09-26
Very fun ARAM game, we were all AP so I improvised.
![[Image: YvOY7o2.png]](http://i.imgur.com/YvOY7o2.png)
Post your games! - MasPan - 2013-09-26
[COLOR="#cc8899"]All AP isn't a huge deal when the enemy has no tank
![[Image: 2ufrm9d.jpg]](http://oi44.tinypic.com/2ufrm9d.jpg)
SERIES Y[/COLOR]AY.
Post your games! - hongyu - 2013-09-26
MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]All AP isn't a huge deal when the enemy has no tank
SERIES Y[/COLOR]AY.
tanks are overrated and not needed in soloq, also lee is tanky lol
Post your games! - MasPan - 2013-09-26
hongyu Wrote:tanks are overrated and not needed in soloq, also lee is tanky lol
[COLOR="#cc8899"]Umm. The AP thing was for TheTempest, not my game. We definitely had an Ashe and a Zed...
In my game the biggest problem the enemy team had was that they were all hyper-mobility DPS champions. They didn't have the burst to off anyone that Blitz grabbed and we'd just counterinitiate and blow them up. Jax also started raging mid/late game.[/COLOR]
Post your games! - Derosis - 2013-09-26
MasPan Wrote:All AP isn't a huge deal when the enemy has no tank
SERIES YAY.
Eww Exaust
Post your games! - Corn - 2013-09-26
Debatable since Ashe Zyra doesn't much kill potential pre 6 anyways.
Post your games! - hongyu - 2013-09-26
I'm a terrible laner at anything that's not wukong, either that or the mechanics I learned on wukong can't really be applied to other laners(ryze/aatrox)
Post your games! - PervyLion - 2013-09-26
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Well out of cardboard division 7. Kind of hoping I make it to gold V by the season is over with
Post your games! - Dredragon - 2013-09-26
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![[Image: fdf0d8fd35a7f461c29a4696d6b29808.png]](http://gyazo.com/fdf0d8fd35a7f461c29a4696d6b29808.png)
Perfect game ruined by manmode backfiring. :<
>Ashe dc'd for half the game
>Didn't even notice[/COLOR]
Post your games! - MasPan - 2013-09-26
Derosis Wrote:Eww Exaust
When the enemy team has a Jax and an ADC, yes, I'm going to make sure my team has an Exhaust. Everyone on their team had a high degree of mobility that Exhaust was useful against (excepting maybe Blitz). Zyra does plenty of damage on her own to make Ignite not really worth it anyway, and the Exhaust saved Ashe on at least 3 occasions.
Post your games! - Derosis - 2013-09-27
MasPan Wrote:When the enemy team has a Jax and an ADC, yes, I'm going to make sure my team has an Exhaust. Everyone on their team had a high degree of mobility that Exhaust was useful against (excepting maybe Blitz). Zyra does plenty of damage on her own to make Ignite not really worth it anyway, and the Exhaust saved Ashe on at least 3 occasions.
I run ignite for early snowball. It works fairly often, if anything, 9/21/0 with a point to gain 5 ap/ad for stronger harass. Mostly for earlygame/midgame stuff. To be honest your E/R should have been more than enough.
Post your games! - Corn - 2013-09-27
Derosis Wrote:I run ignite for early snowball. It works fairly often, if anything, 9/21/0 with a point to gain 5 ap/ad for stronger harass. Mostly for earlygame/midgame stuff. To be honest your E/R should have been more than enough.
Sounds like someone hates Explorer Wards.
Exhaust vs Ignite is really just a matter of preference.
Post your games! - Derosis - 2013-09-27
Corn Wrote:Sounds like someone hates Explorer Wards.
Exhaust vs Ignite is really just a matter of preference.
Meant to type 9/0/21 my bad, I always use my Explorer wards pre-minion spawn. So don't get me wrong, I love x/x/21 or x/x/16 builds. Just a typo.
And not really. Ignite is for really strong aggressive early game. I go exaust if the team only has few/soft CC.
Zyra has two types of Hard CC. They had Ashe which had 2 forms of soft CC and a Global Hard/Soft CC Ulti. Vi ulti which is a knock back/Knock up. And Shen's Global Ulti and Shadow Dash Hard CC. I would always take Ignite in this situation. Otherwise I'd run heal/exaust every time.
Post your games! - Corn - 2013-09-27
I dunno, Ignite wouldn't exactly prove the best until at least 6, and even then the kill is probably secured even without Ignite. You're an Ashe Zyra lane vs a Blitz Ez. If either of you get pulled at Blit'z level 2+ the fight probably is lost regardless of Summoners. On the other hand, if you do manage to snare Blitz (I'm assuming you won't be able to snare Ez), Ignite isn't the greatest on Blitz with his passive. Assuming you guys both focus the Ez, though, I'm pretty damn sure they will win the trade if Blitz Exhausts Ashe since Ashe doesn't have the greatest damage, and your plants are attacking Blitz. Hell, they'd probably win if you carry Exhaust anyways, but that's not the point. They have an Eve, Lee, and Jax incoming onto your Ashe. I always assume the worst of my team and the best of my opponents, so an Ashe arrow, Zyra snare and ults might not even be able to stop the trio then.
I'm pretty conservative with my Ignite usage though anyways. I pretty much only use it on Leona since the range of Ignite is a bit awkward on Zyra, so I'm pretty biased towards Exhaust, since many an occasion it saves my teammates lategame.
But sheesh, carrying Heal instead of Flash against a Lee Sin jungle, Evelynn mid, and Blitzcrank support? You serious?
Post your games! - Olsi - 2013-09-27
I like it when I get ignited by the support while I dive the adc as irelia.
Also finally back into gold 2
Me and zyra wrecked them pretty easily, coupled with shen ult for teamfights while vlad was top it was ez
![[Image: 9xUOnEc.png]](http://i.imgur.com/9xUOnEc.png)
Post your games! - MasPan - 2013-09-27
[COLOR="#cc8899"]Zodiac just reminded me of the other major reason I don't take Ignite on Zyra (in addition to Corn's comments, or most of them, anyway) - I almost always end up with a Morellonomicon. While it is limited by the %HP requirement, I usually have the Grievous Wounds debuff readily available. At that point Ignite becomes more damage. Ignite is also heavily level-dependent for scaling, Exhaust is not. Exhaust utterly cripples attack-speed reliant champions in multiple ways, is a targeted cc (which Zyra otherwise does not have), is instant (again, Zyra's sklls are not), and overall is just incredibly more versatile.
Ignite is great if you can force an advantage and keep it. Otherwise it runs into the problem of just being more damage, which is not always particularly useful.[/COLOR]
Post your games! - Derosis - 2013-09-27
Corn Wrote:I dunno, Ignite wouldn't exactly prove the best until at least 6, and even then the kill is probably secured even without Ignite. You're an Ashe Zyra lane vs a Blitz Ez. If either of you get pulled at Blit'z level 2+ the fight probably is lost regardless of Summoners. On the other hand, if you do manage to snare Blitz (I'm assuming you won't be able to snare Ez), Ignite isn't the greatest on Blitz with his passive. Assuming you guys both focus the Ez, though, I'm pretty damn sure they will win the trade if Blitz Exhausts Ashe since Ashe doesn't have the greatest damage, and your plants are attacking Blitz. Hell, they'd probably win if you carry Exhaust anyways, but that's not the point. They have an Eve, Lee, and Jax incoming onto your Ashe. I always assume the worst of my team and the best of my opponents, so an Ashe arrow, Zyra snare and ults might not even be able to stop the trio then.
I'm pretty conservative with my Ignite usage though anyways. I pretty much only use it on Leona since the range of Ignite is a bit awkward on Zyra, so I'm pretty biased towards Exhaust, since many an occasion it saves my teammates lategame.
But sheesh, carrying Heal instead of Flash against a Lee Sin jungle, Evelynn mid, and Blitzcrank support? You serious?
Ignite is amazing pre-6 as well. It accounts for enemies diving and then ignite coupled with CC on top of constant damage. Most ADC's can't take all that damage and will usually get bursted down pre-6. Post 6 it becomes more of a tool to help kill the champs when the team is together. Also if you get scared of blitz pulls just hide behind minions. You don't have to have bush pressure with Zyra. Hell your plants and Q/E do that for you. And you use your ignite on the support? The support is the low priority target in the lane. Ez is relatively squishy with a long cd escape and his expensive escape. Hence the Ignite. And if were level 3? Slowed for days and snares pretty much make an exaust null in some cases. Plant's are meant for harassing purposes really too. They can hit anyone and do their job right, or they goober and just go for minions plants are silly.
@MasPan; Morellocon on support? No. Just, no. Just pick up Liandries as the primary item for damage. It does a dot and helps scale you up. Not to mention the magic pen helps you do redic damage. Sides, you should have more than enough CDR with W and some other Support items. Masteries too if you start in the CDR in Offensive and/or go with CDR in Utility.
Also who said I replaced flash with heal? You high? I said heal/exaust which usually means or. If I meant heal and exaust. I'll say and.
Post your games! - MasPan - 2013-09-27
Derosis Wrote:Ignite is amazing pre-6 as well. It accounts for enemies diving and then ignite coupled with CC on top of constant damage. Most ADC's can't take all that damage and will usually get bursted down pre-6. Post 6 it becomes more of a tool to help kill the champs when the team is together. Also if you get scared of blitz pulls just hide behind minions. You don't have to have bush pressure with Zyra. Hell your plants and Q/E do that for you. And you use your ignite on the support? The support is the low priority target in the lane. Ez is relatively squishy with a long cd escape and his expensive escape. Hence the Ignite. And if were level 3? Slowed for days and snares pretty much make an exaust null in some cases. Plant's are meant for harassing purposes really too. They can hit anyone and do their job right, or they goober and just go for minions plants are silly.
@MasPan; Morellocon on support? No. Just, no. Just pick up Liandries as the primary item for damage. It does a dot and helps scale you up. Not to mention the magic pen helps you do redic damage. Sides, you should have more than enough CDR with W and some other Support items. Masteries too if you start in the CDR in Offensive and/or go with CDR in Utility.
Also who said I replaced flash with heal? You high? I said heal/exaust which usually means or. If I meant heal and exaust. I'll say and.
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What other support items are you referring to? If you're spending that much money on a Liandry, it's going to be your only item for a long time. Sightstone, mobility/pen boots, and philo (for those who build it) don't give CDR at all. Morellonomicon is a lot cheaper, builds from pieces that can be bought in small chunks, has a GP10 in the build. If the game goes extremely late I do eventually pick up a Guise/Liandry, but CDR is a huge priority for me, not damage (unless I'm the only source of AP on the team or we have several tanks).
You don't get to "no, just no" a completely viable item choice. If I had said I rushed Wit's End on Kog'Maw? Sure. 'Nomicon on a support that transitions into a second mage for her team? No.[/COLOR]
Post your games! - Derosis - 2013-09-28
MasPan Wrote:
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What other support items are you referring to? If you're spending that much money on a Liandry, it's going to be your only item for a long time. Sightstone, mobility/pen boots, and philo (for those who build it) don't give CDR at all. Morellonomicon is a lot cheaper, builds from pieces that can be bought in small chunks, has a GP10 in the build. If the game goes extremely late I do eventually pick up a Guise/Liandry, but CDR is a huge priority for me, not damage (unless I'm the only source of AP on the team or we have several tanks).
You don't get to "no, just no" a completely viable item choice. If I had said I rushed Wit's End on Kog'Maw? Sure. 'Nomicon on a support that transitions into a second mage for her team? No.
I get Liandries after I get Sight Stone -> Philo -> Boots, not to mention wards and oracles in between. If I have a lot of excess gold I'll buy the items for the recipe. Otherwise I'll just go with pure wards/oracles. Otherwise if the team is having issues in chasing Ill get twin shadows.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Shadows
- <Gold value is worth if you get 1 kill/3 assists from using it>
- Spooky Ghost give vison, slows, and helps chase high mobility champions.
- 30% slow for 2.5 seconds.
- 6% movement speed
- 40 AP
![[Image: 20px-Liandry%27s_Torment_item.png]](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130710101721/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/f/fd/Liandry%27s_Torment_item.png/20px-Liandry%27s_Torment_item.png)
Liandry's Torment ticks will tick 6 times at half second intervals. Each tick does 1% of enemy current health as magic damage. Damage from each tick is calculated individually.- This effect checks on every tick if the enemy movement is impaired and will deal double the magic damage (2%) if true.
- This effect checks on every tick if the enemy movement is impaired and will deal double the magic damage (2%) if true.
- Magic pen for your ult/plants.
- HP.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Morellonomicon
- Does not effect life steal
- Does not effect spellvamp
- Only effects heal/healing items/Self Regen.
- A real true counter to champs with high health regen.
Morellonomicon is a great item, but not for a support. Get it if you're an AP carry or if the AP carry has too many items, not if you're a support looking for a teamfight item. Liandries DoT lets you be extremely dangerous in teamfights. With 2% hp every .5 seconds if snared? Yes please. Spooky ghosts also help you engage/disengage in fights. Helps find stranglers, and helps give safety for you while you ward.