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Crooked Hillary! - KhainiWest - 2016-11-06
xparasite9 Wrote:selective information, nice.
It's not clear-cut. It's at the very least a legal gray area, though more on the edge of "yeah it's illegal". Meaning that Clinton likely isn't going to be found guilty, but if the tables were turned Trump's campaign would be thrown through the grinder.
Even everyone's favorite socialist, Bernie Sanders, as noted in the same article you referenced, affirms that this violates the law as it was intended by the drafters.
I mean you can't say she clearly broke the law then go on and say it's an entire gray area, thus the interpretation would be different and have to be fought for. I also don't like the argument of 'the other side', trust me both sides are being reemed, it's just different area's. Donald trump supporters are not going to watch CNN MSNBC or whatever, Hilary supporters aren't going to listen to fox news/alex jones/savage nation, people picked their camps and are both applying extremist values.
Eos Wrote:So does failing businesses so badly you never have to pay taxes on the billions you pay yourself.
I don't consider this fair either;
It's under the assumption he didn't pay taxes because he doesn't want to release his tax returns, he did in fact pay taxes in 1995. We only got the tax summary, we don't know what those losses were on Schedule E, it could be his entire empire depreciated during the 90's. Filing for bankruptcy is also more of a financial tactic than an admittance of defeat.
There's is a lot more gut punches for trump, like that university scandal, seriously may as well been the business version of ITT
Crooked Hillary! - Eos - 2016-11-06
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_581f8ff5e4b0aac62485196a?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063
Still eagerly awaiting Monday's surprise revelation.
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-06
Eos Wrote:http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_581f8ff5e4b0aac62485196a?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063
Still eagerly awaiting Monday's surprise revelation.
I don't know what would have compelled them to have picked the case back up if they weren't absolutely certain they could get an indictment out of it, they were already against a wall but now they are stuck between only one of two options, either they indict her or they 100% lose the faith of the American people; an institution is nothing without the support of those they represent, and there will be none remaining; within a year the FBI will be picked apart and reduced to nothing if they don't indict her, the government will have absolutely no choice but to do that, the public backlash will be that harsh that if they don't distance themselves from the entire organization as soon as possible they risk becoming part of the group that will be disparaged even further by the people of the country. Are they legitimately stupid, or do they think they are invincible to the extent that no matter what they do people will accept this pomegranate? Regardless, our government has backed themselves into yet ANOTHER corner that they didn't need to back themselves into in the first place, if I didn't know any better I would think they were TRYING to incite a civil war, they have messed up literally every PR attempt in the past 6 months since this election cycle began in the worst ways possible. The only problem I have with that is, when a revolution occurs, other superpowers will just swoop in and divide up the country as spoils of war after the civil war is over and there will be nothing we can do to stop them, and the country will -still- be destroyed just as totally as it would be if Hillary got into office and started her war with Russia.
At least it's just a huffington post article, they are tabloid garbage, it could all be baseless nonsense like almost everything else on that site, but I've heard this same thing from actual reliable sources as well so I'm not so sure. I'm not even sure anymore that Trump winning will prevent unrest, California has already started grandstanding about secession if he wins (which, good fucking riddance, but that's beside the point) and I'm sure there will be pissed off minorities rioting just as hard as pissed off patriots would be if Hillary wins. I don't think there is a victory move any longer for this country unless Trump does WAY better than most people including myself think he can. We are fucked no matter what.
Crooked Hillary! - xparasite9 - 2016-11-06
Hearing nutty rumors that the FBI opened the investigation just to keep NYPD from dropping the bombshells on the public. And now that they closed it, it will be "too late" for any leaks to do enough damage.
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-07
http://i.imgur.com/rpGvhqe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NdPav6N.jpg significant discrepancies in behavioral patterns before and after the kidnapping; the Chandlers in question in the image are suspected accomplices, Mrs. Chandler had an affair when she was 15-16 with Bill Clinton which has also been confirmed with some rather suggestive/graphic images that I did not save/will not post here because I am not (completely) retarded
http://i.imgur.com/JkkKmGt.jpg police sketches of kidnappers of Madeleine have OVERWHELMING similarities to the podesta brothers
http://i.imgur.com/p8xcwMm.jpg someone found this picture in the leaked emails, picture on left is what Madeleine looked like when she was kidnapped; the ears, the facial structure and the nose are also very remarkably similar
http://i.imgur.com/YG6Oo4E.png NOT SUSPICIOUS AT ALL that all of these places are linked to this case (just today it was found that Soros has also donated over 1 million dollars to Comet Ping Pong)
http://i.imgur.com/22OqRTE.jpg more extremely suspicious imagery that confirms there is an underground complex beneath Comet Ping Pong that is running dozens of internet access points, likely streaming
http://pastebin.com/VEJZaPEx All deleted now but someone had the good sense to archive them, instagram posts at the bottom of this pastebin are pretty clear proof that comet ping pong is not what it says it is, from suggestive imagery of children in an "18+" section of posting on the instagram to children actually being present at the spirit cooking tier pomegranate, in another place there was actually an image of a child looking at a painting of a nude sort-of woman sitting atop a throne of nude dead babies. The child taped to the table is particularly weird, but all of them have very pineappleing weird comments in the comment section, and this was a private instagram. Rest of pastebin is compiled proof of what is going on.
There is plenty of other indications that some very wrong pomegranate is going on but the most easily traceable one is Madeleine. While this is the sort of thing that people get "suicided" over for knowing, I'm a major depressive anyway, I don't particularly give a pineapple if they kill me as long as this information gets out, it implicates the majority of the ruling class of this country in extremely bad things, and could implicate international ruling class as well given that Soros has also donated to some of these places. It really doesn't matter in the least anymore who wins the election, because while I want Trump to win, there's no way he can do anything about any of this pomegranate.
on another note, someone made this very good video linking to all the new wikileaks emails
[video=youtube;m9kmAAp4yd4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9kmAAp4yd4[/video]
video of the Comet Ping Pong place, including live video feed from an announcer inside. extremely fucked up pomegranate.
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Crooked Hillary! - Satellite - 2016-11-08
[MENTION=5658]xparasite9[/MENTION] [MENTION=2088]Flonne[/MENTION] While we're at this topic... I would like to hear your thoughts on Trump being a peeping tom and "inspecting" naked underage Miss Teen USA contestants, hitting on 10 year old girls, his creepy comments about his own daughter, his comments about grabbing women by the p*ssy and alleged harassment/rape claims by women including alleged underage victims?
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![[Image: donald-ivanka-trump-throwback-photo-lead-11.jpg?w=600]](https://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/donald-ivanka-trump-throwback-photo-lead-11.jpg?w=600)
Additional questions: Do you two believe in humans playing a part climate change? Are you anti-vaccine? What do you think about Trumps anti-science comments? What do you think about Trump Calling Bill Gates to close/censor the internet (and do you think Bill Gates runs the internet too)? Why do you think Trump hasn't released his tax returns?
Sorry if you've already covered some of these in your posts.
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-08
Given the times that they came out, I consider all claims of sexual misconduct against him to be purely for personal gain, and completely false.
He makes strange comments like these two sometimes, but they are benign, he is not a politician so he does not parse his words the same way as we are used to hearing from politicians. I take it just as him being proud of his daughter, there is no real indication that he actually wants to have sex with her.
Him saying the "grab her by the platypus" line is completely true, but it was also in a completely private setting, you hear the term locker room talk, it was quite literally in a locker room talking with another person and not directed at the woman herself, a private joke between two grown men. When comparing a rather normal sexist joke or even something like Hulk Hogan using the word nigger multiple times (only once in a disparaging manner) to what Hillary and Bill have actually DONE, I see no problem whatsoever, they are just trying to distract from the actual issues as usual.
Again, the rape claims have all either been brought up from years/decades ago as opportunism at best and in 1-2 cases they actually went to trial MULTIPLE TIMES and found him innocent, in fact one of them is liable to get sued over it because the court told her to never bring that pomegranate before them again because it had lost in court so many times (this is the one that he will be "on trial" for later this year that the media keeps bring up, by the way). More character assassination, nothing more than that.
Humans play a part in climate change, the problem is the change we could make by killing our profit margins and allowing China to take over the global market in the process because they would not follow the same regulations is quite miniscule. Until we can get a real commitment with PROOF of action out of China, attempting to go fully green will only murder the US on a global financial level because almost none of the other major production countries will follow suit and as such will not only continue to fully profit off, they will pull away from OUR profits EVEN MORE as well when even more of our companies move overseas. Going partially green is fine if you can find a way to do it while maintaining the same or better profit margins, but that is not something that has currently been found as feasible, oil and coal and even natgas are very profitable and efficient sources of energy on a cost ratio, solar and geothermal and to an extent wind are incredibly inefficient, I'm not sure where hydroelectric would fall. But also keep in mind the amount of damage lithium mining does to the surrounding environment; electric is NOT green, the energy "burns" more green but the physical damage it does to the earth itself is massive, much moreso than even fracking does.
I am not anti-vax, when progress is actual progress you take advantage of it.
Which comments are you referring to?
He doesn't speak eloquently comparatively, by "close" he has made clear he means "censor", and by "censor" he means do something about stopping ISIS from recruiting online in this case. I will definitely agree, he is basically clueless when it comes to computers, referring to pomegranate as "the cybers" and thinking Bill Gates is the king of the internet, so I am hoping he will surround himself with people that can handle the things he is clueless about and more importantly listen to them when they tell him he is wrong (this may be the issue). On that note, Hillary outright supports TPP and most other international megacensorship bills.
My assumption is that he will have taken advantage of several (completely legal) loopholes to drastically reduce the amount of taxes he has paid, in the manner of a typical rich guy. I 100% agree with his stance of "if you don't like the way it is handled, change the laws, because the politicians are the ones that made this legal in the first place". If you don't take advantage of the system the same way others do, you aren't ever going to get anywhere. It was smarter not to release them, Hillary would nitpick every little thing in them, lie and say "this is illegal" on things one at a time so he is defending each one of the legal loopholes he went through for months straight instead of focusing on real issues. That's the way Hillary plays the game and he knows it. He knew that if he released them, his stuff would get all the scrutiny, and the potential upside of him being able to attack HER foundation's track record would be nullified by the media not covering anything he said on the topic. It would be liberal suicide to outright tell the truth to the public and say her clinton foundation "charity" only donates around 5-7% of all of it's gains and straight up pockets the remaining ~95%.
Crooked Hillary! - Satellite - 2016-11-08
[MENTION=2088]Flonne[/MENTION] I do feel like some of the things Trump says are purposely exaggerated for his campaign or have no chance to pass the congress. The problem I see is that the world economy likes predictability. It's very difficult to know what kind of president Trump will be, how much he will listen to his advisors (and how good advisors he can get in the first place) etc.
As far as how this election could affect my own country, Clintons attitude when it comes to Russia worries me. We have an 833 mile border with Russia and tensions have increased in the baltic sea lately, with NATO country Norway in the north and baltic states in the south. Similarly though, Trump making some great deal with Putin doesn't sound too great either. We still have bad memories from a few decades ago.
Edit:
As for Trumps anti-vaccine positions:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-08
Satellite Wrote:Flonne I do feel like some of the things Trump says are purposely exaggerated for his campaign or have no chance to pass the congress. The problem I see is that the world economy likes predictability. It's very difficult to know what kind of president Trump will be, how much he will listen to his advisors (and how good advisors he can get in the first place) etc.
As far as how this election could affect my own country, Clintons attitude when it comes to Russia worries me. We have an 833 mile border with Russia and tensions have increased in the baltic sea lately, with NATO country Norway in the north and baltic states in the south. Similarly though, Trump making some great deal with Putin doesn't sound too great either. We still have bad memories from a few decades ago.
Edit:
As for Trumps anti-vaccine positions:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552
Hillary has stated she WILL impose a no fly zone over Syria. That IS war with Russia, there is no other way to look at that, they will ignore the no fly zone and either she will look like a wimp for not enforcing it or she will be forced to take actions against them blatantly ignoring it (and probably publicizing it to futher taunt her, seeing as Putin has said there will be a war if Hillary is elected and it would be in his best interest if she starts it).
And I meant the anti-science comments, not the anti-vax. I don't think he will impose strict anti-vax at a state level, though, that seems to be his go-to for most issues, aside from illegals and maybe abortion (which, I am pro-life, but not exactly for the more popular "life starts at conception" reason. I feel like if a person is dumb enough to get knocked up even with all of the options available for contraception, they should be taught to deal with the consequences and not ignore them as has become standard in this country, the younger generation at this point thinks NOTHING should have a punishment if they are the ones doing it. This obviously excludes rape, but that should be obvious at this point; there are many people out there who even today are looking for adoption and there are long waitlists for adoptions, so if the mother doesn't want the child they should be educated on the adoption system so the child they don't want doesn't potentially become person who is statistically more likely to become a felon due to neglect or lack of father).
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-09
I will be cautiously fucking optimistic, but looking at this map the winner is 100% clear unless some major rigging occurs in the next couple hours, almost ALL of the districts in the states that have a chance to go red are dark red counties, even NYT has him at 95%+ chance to win, he's even within winning distance in fucking PA. Utah is fucking -30% Hillary. AZ is likely Trump, Iowa is called Trump in multiple others, GA is called in some and is obviously red, WI is going to be red, MI could be blue BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN FUCKING MATTER LOL, NH could be blue BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN FUCKING MATTER LOL.
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, MOTHERFUCKERS, now we just need to focus on Trump not getting assassinated by some butthurt globalists.
Crooked Hillary! - fodjgngf - 2016-11-09
I'm just wondering if the US is gonna end up in a riot.
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Crooked Hillary! - KhainiWest - 2016-11-09
Holy pomegranate
Crooked Hillary! - VerrKol - 2016-11-09
I guess we'll finally find out what Trump's secret plan to beat ISIS is after all. And what all his other secret policies are.
Crooked Hillary! - Dudewitbow - 2016-11-09
can't believe this clownfest is resulting in this way
Crooked Hillary! - ShinkuDragon - 2016-11-09
well well well hillary (and company), maybe getting bernie off the race wasn't the smartest idea eeeeeeeeeeeeh?
Crooked Hillary! - fodjgngf - 2016-11-09
ShinkuDragon Wrote:well well well hillary (and company), maybe getting bernie off the race wasn't the smartest idea eeeeeeeeeeeeh?
If I was American I would've voted for Bernie in a heart beat.
Crooked Hillary! - Justin - 2016-11-09
fodjgngf Wrote:If I was American I would've voted for Bernie in a heart beat.
A lot of us would have. He wasn't the best, but he's a hell of a lot better than Hillary and Trump are. I'd still prefer Trump over Hillary, though.
Crooked Hillary! - fodjgngf - 2016-11-09
Oh now the Hillary campaign believes there is "irregularities" in Pennsylvania. Why not like 2 hours ago?
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-09
fodjgngf Wrote:Oh now the Hillary campaign believes there is "irregularities" in Pennsylvania. Why not like 2 hours ago?
They can't call for a recount either because then it would expose all the rigging they tried LMAO
PA is a solid win, over 1%
WI is a solid win, only 3% unreported and 3% victory margin
AZ is a solid win, 4% margin and 19% unreported
Alaska is a given
MI is up for grabs, it's at 92% but all remaining districts but one are heavy pop heavy blue, they could still grab that even though he's up 2%, but he still wins VERY handily even without the MI win, it's completely over, he won. Republicans are also currently ahead in Senate AND House, and with the new justice Trump appoints that means all branches will be Republican, so if he can't deliver on what he says he will then he can't blame anyone, he has the deck stacked 100% in his favor.
Crooked Hillary! - fodjgngf - 2016-11-09
Oh Hillary has conceded.