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Alchemy Recipes - Kabanaw - 2009-07-25
EmuAlert Wrote:The most you could ADD thanks to maker is 5 from a Wisdom Crystal, 5 from a Luk Crystal, and 5 from a Black Crystal. You can then pile on above average-ness and 12 slots after being Vicious Hammer'd, so you can end up getting a 70+ stat overall if you're going for perfection.
Oh, and on my post a bit ago, I forgot to add the Dark Calas, which gives 5 stats. So it would probably be worth it to go for a bit more luk equips to wear up to level 50 mage stuff.
:/
You can only add one one crystal to items lvl 70 and below. Meaning, 5 from a wisdom crystal.
Judging from clean items, a lukless mage would get an extra 9 int from a dark calas, 8 from a glove, and 8 int from a shoe, meaning 25 extra int.
I have 103 base luk, meaning a lukless mage has 99 more MA than me. With maker, I can get 10 int from a glove, 13 int from an overall, 9 int from a shield, and 9 int +1 ma from shoes, totaling 42 extra int, plus another say 6 int from level ups, totaling 48 int, which makes the gap between a lukless and me 84 MA.
Since I can also put luk on my gear, i can get it up to 33 luk plus some from level ups. A zhelm and HT pendant make this 70 luk, more than enough to wear a lvl 163 ele staff. That extra 33 MA over the 130 wand closes the gap to only 51 MA, which any mage will tell you makes a difference but at high levels not that huge of one.
Edit: Oh yeah, the whole luk vs. lukless thing was kind of off topic, but i'm just using it to show my previous point that it helps balance.
Alchemy Recipes - JoshKun - 2009-07-25
Takebacker Wrote:If it's 5 int clean, 15 int if you're lucky with a dark crystal.
So that would result in a 75 int maximum Calas? (scrolled and hammered w/e)
I guess my 31 int calas is crap now =(
Alchemy Recipes - Kabanaw - 2009-07-25
SekushiKun Wrote:So that would result in a 75 int maximum Calas? (scrolled and hammered w/e)
I guess my 31 int calas is crap now =(
If you use an advanced wisdom crystal you can get about 10 INT clean. If you use all 10/30s on it, it can be 70 INT. But saying a 31 stat overall is crap because you could have a 70 stat one is like saying a 15 att SCG is crap because you could have a 27 att BWG.
Alchemy Recipes - tougo - 2009-07-25
Kabanaw Wrote:If you use an advanced wisdom crystal you can get about 10 INT clean. If you use all 10/30s on it, it can be 70 INT. But saying a 31 stat overall is crap because you could have a 70 stat one is like saying a 15 att SCG is crap because you could have a 27 att BWG.
not to mention that making and advanced wisdom will have some serious cost and small chances
Alchemy Recipes - Kabanaw - 2009-07-25
tougo Wrote:not to mention that making and advanced wisdom will have some serious cost and small chances
Yeah, that too. I'm just going to use low or mid for my reverse gear, then once i can forge it i'll go advanced for my timeless.
Alchemy Recipes - JoshKun - 2009-07-25
How hard is it to make a 10 int clean Dark Calas? (What are the chances?)
Alchemy Recipes - Kabanaw - 2009-07-25
SekushiKun Wrote:How hard is it to make a 10 int clean Dark Calas? (What are the chances?)
Well, it depends on if you use a stimulator or not. If you use one, it can get up to 13 or 14 int clean, or could go as low as 6 with an advanced wisdom crystal. An advanced wisdom crystal, however, only has a 1% chance of appearing when you appraise a crystal.
Alchemy Recipes - JoshKun - 2009-07-25
Kabanaw Wrote:Well, it depends on if you use a stimulator or not. If you use one, it can get up to 13 or 14 int clean, or could go as low as 6 with an advanced wisdom crystal. An advanced wisdom crystal, however, only has a 1% chance of appearing when you appraise a crystal.
I guess I need to do some reading. Half of the things you just said went over my head.
Alchemy Recipes - EmuAlert - 2009-07-25
SekushiKun Wrote:I guess I need to do some reading. Half of the things you just said went over my head.
If you're wondering about probabilities of crystals/jewels being upgraded, you can find some good ones here. See Stereo's first post for some (slightly confusing) statistics on wis/dex/str/luk crystal appraising.
Alchemy Recipes - Stereo - 2009-07-25
Kabanaw Wrote:Well, it depends on if you use a stimulator or not. If you use one, it can get up to 13 or 14 int clean, or could go as low as 6 with an advanced wisdom crystal. An advanced wisdom crystal, however, only has a 1% chance of appearing when you appraise a crystal.
To the best of my knowledge, a stimulator only changes the range from 8-10 clean (since clean ones are 3-5) to 9-10 clean. It just eliminates the "below average" stats. It does bear testing though, so I hope some people can post their Item Maker results.
Odds are probably somewhere between 30% and 50% of being 10 int...
Alchemy Recipes - Alloy - 2009-07-25
Stereo Wrote:To the best of my knowledge, a stimulator only changes the range from 8-10 clean (since clean ones are 3-5) to 9-10 clean. It just eliminates the "below average" stats. It does bear testing though, so I hope some people can post their Item Maker results.
Odds are probably somewhere between 30% and 50% of being 10 int...
Maybe that's what a high HANDS level does... Remember it was into some maker equation? Could perfectly be that too.
Alchemy Recipes - kwaz - 2009-07-28
eos367 Wrote:Magi Recipes
Based on pricing I think the Reverse/Timeless Enreal Tear is a Wand, not a Staff. But I can't match the name to an ID... one of the L120s is in the wrong section at any rate.
Alchemy Recipes - BuNnYs1N - 2009-07-28
pardon me but i'm a bit confused after reading the chart. on the 4th column after level, name, and mesos there is a 'gem' column. so my question is: what are 'gems'?
Alchemy Recipes - Komality - 2009-07-28
Gems are concidered to be jewels/crystals aka Diamonds, Dex Crystals, Opals, etc..
Alchemy Recipes - ItsCnnAgain - 2009-07-28
BuNnYs1N Wrote:pardon me but i'm a bit confused after reading the chart. on the 4th column after level, name, and mesos there is a 'gem' column. so my question is: what are 'gems'?
It's the amount of gems you can add to the item.
Alchemy Recipes - Eos - 2009-07-28
kwaz Wrote:Based on pricing I think the Reverse/Timeless Enreal Tear is a Wand, not a Staff. But I can't match the name to an ID... one of the L120s is in the wrong section at any rate.
I'm aware - I just don't care since I have to redo it all in 24 hours anyway.
Alchemy Recipes - Eos - 2009-07-28
Version 73 updates done.
Alchemy Recipes - Takebacker - 2009-07-28
eos367 Wrote:Version 73 updates done.
Anything noteworthy we should be aware of? :/
Alchemy Recipes - Eos - 2009-07-28
Takebacker Wrote:Anything noteworthy we should be aware of? :/
No, just that we have gordon's iron in our data now and the actual names for everything.
And that we got shafted on a trustworthy powder drop list.
Alchemy Recipes - Chameleonic - 2009-07-29
eos367 Wrote:And that we got shafted on a trustworthy powder drop list.
How so?