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A heartfelt plea - jorparkour - 2012-04-27

this is a heartfelt plea


A heartfelt plea - Lem_Gambino - 2012-05-02

I unblocked the site just for the Minccinos chinchillas. They were too cute to resist :<!


A heartfelt plea - ballers42 - 2012-05-08

Eos Wrote:Despite having more traffic than ever, despite having a more active and thriving community than ever and higher even than many of the sites that used to be bigger than us, Southperry is making less revenue than almost since the day it opened.

After analyzing logs and researching traffic to try to come up with a reason for why/how this could be, it became evident that something is amiss.

In February Southperry had ~4 million pageviews within the actual forums themselves.
It had only 2.5m Ad impressions.

Considering there are 3 ads per page, logically there should be nearly 12m ad impressions. Even accounting for the people exempt from ads, ultra donators & moderators, there should still be well over 10m ads.

This discrepancy is alarming because ad revenue is what keeps this site going.
Blocking ads, or ignoring them, is almost second nature to most of us by now, but doing so here means you're contributing to the eventual demise of this site, because without the revenue from Ads Fiel doesn't get paid, and without that pay he can't afford to keep paying for a host for his extractions, let alone waste time trying to improve them and provide them to us.

I'm not asking you to click any ads you're not interested in, that would be click fraud and is absolutely the last thing we want, but we are asking you to White List ads on Southperry and at least give them a chance. Even if you never see anything that interests you just having them enabled counts incrementally towards our impressions, lets google see info about our subject material and who watches it and helps them better target ads that you and others might be more interested in and shows off how valuable of a traffic source we are.

Loose has helped create a banner to display for those of you who are blocking ads, to help remind you who's really being hurt by blocking them;

[Image: starving-chins.png]

Hopefully some of you will see it, remember, and fix it.

It's a concept as old as time; If you really like us, show it by supporting us and helping us keep going.

Thank you for your time.

White Listing Tutorials
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A heartfelt plea - Bremze - 2012-05-08

*Mercedes Benz car parts*
*Meet Foreign Men*
*Meet your dream man today*

As a straight male that doesn't have a car, I feel the adds might be slightly off the mark :f6:


A heartfelt plea - Eos - 2012-05-08

Bremze Wrote:*Mercedes Benz car parts*
*Meet Foreign Men*
*Meet your dream man today*

As a straight male that doesn't have a car, I feel the adds might be slightly off the mark :f6:

Maybe Google is trying to out you to yourself.


A heartfelt plea - KhainiWest - 2012-05-08

Bremze Wrote:*Mercedes Benz car parts*
*Meet Foreign Men*
*Meet your dream man today*

As a straight male that doesn't have a car, I feel the adds might be slightly off the mark :f6:

If you register for southperry you're automatically bicurious in googles eyes. Fortunately for me, I'm SO MUCH TESTERONE that it overlaps my southperry registeration.


A heartfelt plea - Bremze - 2012-05-08

Eos Wrote:Maybe Google is trying to out you to yourself.

Eh, Google probably knows more about me than I do. I guess it's ad clicking time!


A heartfelt plea - Eos - 2012-05-08

Bremze Wrote:Eh, Google probably knows more about me than I do.

So true. They've probably got deep psychological profiles on all of us by now. They even knew you'd realize that.


A heartfelt plea - Kitty - 2012-05-10

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A heartfelt plea - JoshKun - 2012-06-07

Well I honestly attempted to do as you ask, but I cannot figure out how to whitelist on firefox abp. I'm not super savvy with these things. I don't think one person will affect your revenue too much x:


A heartfelt plea - Christopher - 2012-06-14

JoshKun Wrote:Well I honestly attempted to do as you ask, but I cannot figure out how to whitelist on firefox abp. I'm not super savvy with these things. I don't think one person will affect your revenue too much x:

I re-enabled ads for sp on both our laptops. lolnoob.


A heartfelt plea - JoshKun - 2012-06-14

Christopher Wrote:I re-enabled ads for sp on both our laptops. lolnoob.
Hey thanks


A heartfelt plea - Eos - 2012-06-14

JoshKun Wrote:Hey thanks

Now you can flaunt your little angel-chin and stop getting the glares-of-death.


A heartfelt plea - ExtremeDevilz - 2012-06-14

Nice Thanks


A heartfelt plea - Question - 2012-06-29

cool thank


A heartfelt plea - fwaggle - 2012-07-13

Can the first post be updated (as the information I'm seeking may be in the thread but I don't feel like reading 9 pages of "omg chinchillas <3" to find out) with answer to the following:

1) Who's your ad provider(s)?
2) Do you allow, and if not is there any way for a third party to trick you to allow rich media ads to show up?
3) What sort of security record does your ad provider(s) have with people abusing their network?

I'm sure you can understand half-technical users of an MMO (ie, this forum's target audience, no?) erring on the side of caution and blocking ads anyway, when there's apparently been rampant abuse of ad providers for MMO fansites as delivery vehicles for adware specific to their MMO. Ideally, if you deliver your own ads and allow image-only ads, I'd unblock in a heartbeat but I'd imagine that's probably not the case.


A heartfelt plea - Eos - 2012-07-13

I find your line of questioning odd and mildly pointless considering it would've taken you less effort to view any page's source than to ask.

Anyone actually interested in those things should be competent enough to do their own research and make their own judgments.

In your case, uh, you're using their browser, so if you have trust issues they're oddly placed.


A heartfelt plea - fwaggle - 2012-07-14

Eos Wrote:I find your line of questioning odd and mildly pointless considering it would've taken you less effort to view any page's source than to ask.

Anyone actually interested in those things should be competent enough to do their own research and make their own judgments.

In your case, uh, you're using their browser, so if you have trust issues they're oddly placed.

Funny you mention effort when it would have taken less effort on your part to just say "Google" (or more accurately, Doubleclick, as when you hinted at "Google" at first, I thought it was simply AdSense). ;D

I don't have trust issues per se - but if you Google the subject there's oodles of complaints of rich media advertising being exploited to inject malware (with the ad networks doing the heavy lifting of targeting users of specific games to boot), and I believe there were rumours of another fanforum that's named after a Victoria island town having it happen to them too. I don't think it's an unfair question, nor do I think it's lazy to ask. I definitely think that the first post of this thread (considering it's an appeal) could definitely benefit from having the information present for lazy, yet paranoid freaks like me.

P.S. In case you somehow think Google's immune to serving malware, though I apologize for the crappy source: http://blog.armorize.com/2010/12/hdd-plus-malware-spread-through.html


A heartfelt plea - Eos - 2012-07-14

fwaggle Wrote:Funny you mention effort when it would have taken less effort on your part to just say "Google" (or more accurately, Doubleclick, as when you hinted at "Google" at first, I thought it was simply AdSense). ;D

I believe in forcing people to help themselves rather than rely on me. Better for everyone.

Anyone using AdSense, which is ostensibly what we use at this moment, is also using any 3rd party advertising network that Google rents out AdSense space to. I couldn't give you a list of every possible ad network they can or will throw up if I tried, there's over 600 at the moment. I'm not going to declare, guarantee, or even hint at a specific provider in the plea itself because it can change on a moment's notice.

I will also point out your question was already answered in post #1 before you asked, in the Exceptions spoiler.

As for risks; It's the internet. Your browser is a risk. Just being online is a risk. Every site you visit is a risk. Every person you talk to is a risk. Every software you use is a risk. They're all equally possible vectors and minorly probable and the bald face fact is that even if you do everything right you're still going to be a victim at some point thanks to holes in your security beyond your control, ala SASSER, so it's more practical to have mitigation in place than to try to stop every possible avenue of entry, which are unfortunately "everything".