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Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Kalovale - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:why not? that would be awesome? i would make a nl then.
This is where we differ. Balance != power hunger.
I have seen the truth, I'm out of here now.
EDIT: Yes they do. Extra freeze time, Battleship durability, more RF usability aren't at all wrongly placed on a class that's utterly annoying to play.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - MetaSeraphim - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:any other classes? nty, i dont wanna spend that much nx just for hp.
Don't be a damage whore and learn how to blood build.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - MorbidMagus - 2010-06-11
Not like you'll have to blood/wash excessively with all the new updates headed our way.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
MetaSeraphim Wrote:Don't be a damage whore and learn how to blood build.
I like being dmg whore, ty.
wasting strenght/Nx for hp, Nty.
@ above: you are right maybe i just need to wait, but i think i wont be playing anymore when we get those updates
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - SwordStaker - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:I dont think "no one hates them" if they dont, why dont they just let them be? but no" i dont hate you but i dont want you to be stonger" its the general idea.Well then you are alone. And yes I do think they needed that improvement. They shouldn't have to whack a monster when close, their damage is HORRIBLE for SO many levels. It was a LONG time comming.
I played a bishop for 200 lvs and believe me i dont think its that godly/perfect/ultimate class/above all others. i just dont do.
Edit: do you think corsairs needed all that improvement?
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - MorbidMagus - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:I like being dmg whore, ty.
wasting strenght/Nx for hp, Nty.
Then don't? We have Paladins, Evans, Arans, Drks, and soon to-be BattleMages and Item ratings system, washing will hardly be needed, if at all.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Sarah - 2010-06-11
Kalovale Wrote:"Anyone that has responded to that statement of yours" would be a better claim, since you clearly didn't infer that much. That is to say, Sarah and I did not.
actually you're wrong about me. based on everything s/he has said, i don't believe for a second that s/he was being sarcastic. but that's just me.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
SwordStaker Wrote:Well then you are alone. And yes I do think they needed that improvement. They shouldn't have to whack a monster when close, their damage is HORRIBLE for SO many levels. It was a LONG time comming.
its a range class and range classes are suppose to be like that I think.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Takebacker - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:its a range class and range classes are suppose to be like that I think.
No. NLs don't have the wingspan range to throw a star when a monster is close so they punch it. Archers don't have the room to fire an arrow if a monster is close so they whack it (or MB it). A gunslinger can just put the gun to it's head and fire. There is no reason for a gunslinger to whack.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - MetaSeraphim - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:I like being dmg whore, ty.
wasting strenght/Nx for hp, Nty.
Because 50 points into HP is LIKEOMGSOMUCHDAMAGE!@!11110
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
Takebacker Wrote:No. NLs don't have the wingspan range to throw a star when a monster is close so they punch it. Archers don't have the room to fire an arrow if a monster is close so they whack it (or MB it). A gunslinger can just put the gun to it's head and fire. There is no reason for a gunslinger to whack.
maple is not like RL.
MetaSeraphim Wrote:Because 50 points into HP is LIKEOMGSOMUCHDAMAGE!@!1111050 points is not enough.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Solarboy - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:maple is not like RL.
But it "has" common sense, if you have something in front of you and have a gun, you atack it not whack it.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - MorbidMagus - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:50 points is not enough.
Ranged classes could HT @ 13x-14x with 50 points with Evan/Aran buffs. Thats pretty significant. My late 14x nightlord friend HT'd without ever washing thanks to said buffs :/
In response to your other point, Nightlords and Archers can Kb a monster, Corsairs cannot. Besides, you should be a little more realistic, if you had a Gun, and a monster was in front of you, your telling me you would hit it? lmfao.
The most powerful/useful Corsair moves had no minimal range to begin with in the first place, all the updates did was made 10-40 much more freaken easy, and make corsairs do better in bossing situations, with a more durable ship and stronger Off-ship attacks.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Blake - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:I dont think "no one hates them" if they dont, why dont they just let them be? but no" i dont hate you but i dont want you to be stonger" its the general idea.
I played a bishop for 200 lvs and believe me i dont think its that godly/perfect/ultimate class/above all others. i just dont do.
Edit: do you think corsairs needed all that improvement?
I think Bishop is as close to perfect as it's going to get and I've played one for nearly 200 levels. Just let it go. Bishops don't need anything more. If you want something different, make something different.
On an unrelated note, I can't wait for the balance patch. I already like my Paladin as it is, but this just makes it even better.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
Anyone can throw a star even if the "monster" is in front of him, same thing for archers, isnt effective, but not impossible.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - MorbidMagus - 2010-06-11
Why the hell does it even matter?
Nightlords and Archers can KB monsters and group them together
Corsairs shoot at close range.
Sounds fair as hell to me. Its not like a Corsair will want to be up in the monsters face in most situations.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Sarah - 2010-06-11
this is ridiculous guys. should probably stop responding to asumi now.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
Good to know you agree with the update.
I dont. Is anyone gonna say anything against me cause i dont agree?
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Takebacker - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:Anyone can throw a star even if the "monster" is in front of him, same thing for archers, isnt effective, but not impossible.
Please tell me how to throw a star at a wooden pole that is within 1 foot in front of me.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
Takebacker Wrote:Please tell me how to throw a star at a wooden pole that is within 1 foot in front of me.
ill just ignore that question if you mean in RL.