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[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - McAwesomesauce - 2010-01-05
fiel Wrote:ranger
- inferno - inflicts burn damage for 7 seconds. Damage increased to 160% from 150%.
crossbowman
- iron arrow - damage increased to 200% from 180%
sniper
- strafe - can now instant kill with a 3% probability to mobs under frozen effect
what am i looking at
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Beaner - 2010-01-05
McAwesomesauce Wrote:Hunter
- Arrow Bomb : Bow - Damage increased to 150% from 130%
WHAT AM I LOOKING AT
at the worst class update so far
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - King - 2010-01-05
wow buff on ultimates? Is Nexon Korea on pot or something?
the base atk on all three ults needs to be nerfed to at least half the current base atk and triple the mp cost per cast -_- This is bulls'hit since AMs already got a buff last week...
and buffs on BM? are u f'cking serious?
and when will we get NL buffs? at this rate they will be out dmged by alot more classes now...
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Tikey - 2010-01-05
King Wrote:wow buff on ultimates? Is Nexon Korea on pot or something?
the base atk on all three ults needs to be nerfed to at least half the current base atk and triple the mp cost per cast -_- This is bulls'hit since AMs already got a buff last week...
Right, let's pump the MP cost up to the point where they can't even be used.
The buff to the ultimates doesn't even really affect anything because even at 570 base, we can already OHKO everything with them.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - KaidaTan - 2010-01-05
King Wrote:and when will we get NL buffs? at this rate they will be out dmged by alot more classes now...lol. You're funny.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Rick - 2010-01-05
King Wrote:wow buff on ultimates? Is Nexon Korea on pot or something?
the base atk on all three ults needs to be nerfed to at least half the current base atk and triple the mp cost per cast -_- This is bulls'hit since AMs already got a buff last week...
and buffs on BM? are u f'cking serious?
and when will we get NL buffs? at this rate they will be out dmged by alot more classes now...
Clearly you've never played an Arch Mage. And there were no Bowmaster buffs, they were Ranger buffs.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - King - 2010-01-05
KaidaTan Wrote:lol. You're funny.
Why? The only thing that NLs were the best at was at bossing, now they are easily out dpsed by corsairs, who were the first to be buffed in these BS patches..
NLs are not the best at ANYTHING anymore and still has the lowest HP in the game that requires a sh't loads of money to pump it up...They have no useful party skills other than haste which is useless at most boss...They are THE SLOWEST training job out there after 4th job
Tell me why NLs shouldn't be buffed?
Rick Wrote:Clearly you've never played an Arch Mage. And there were no Bowmaster buffs, they were Ranger buffs.
Why do I need to play a mage when they are clearly overpowered in this game?
Why do you think that there are more than 300 level 200 mages in GMS and only like 50 level 200s in other jobs
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Beaner - 2010-01-05
King Wrote:Why? The only thing that NLs were the best at was at bossing, now they are easily out dpsed by corsairs, who were the first to be buffed in these BS patches..
NLs are not the best at ANYTHING anymore and still has the lowest HP in the game that requires a sh't loads of money to pump it up...They have no useful party skills other than haste which is useless at most boss
Tell me why NLs shouldn't be buffed?
just so you know every NL i seen asking for a buff is a buff on skills other than TT, meaning better mob skills or no delay on FS. no one so far had the balls to ask for more dps.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - HellenzSin - 2010-01-05
the only change i would like is another skill maybe mobbing skill? other than lolambush, i just dont understand why we got that skill at all.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - King - 2010-01-05
XBish Wrote:just so you know every NL i seen asking for a buff is a buff on skills other than TT, meaning better mob skills or no delay on FS. no one so far had the balls to ask for more dps.
First of all wtp is FS? Facestompers is not a skill...
and what's wrong with asking more DPS to make them the single target DPS king again? Since in most games paper hp = monster DPS
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - KaidaTan - 2010-01-05
King Wrote:Why? The only thing that NLs were the best at was at bossing, now they are easily out dpsed by corsairs, who were the first to be buffed in these BS patches..Corsairs are only stronger than NLs in their ships on motherfking paper. The ship is slow (and because we have very low avoid, we get hit a lot. Due to its forced 80% speed, it takes a long time to reposition as well) and not terribly versatile. And it can break! Night Lords are nearly as strong, almost never get hit, and can attack in mid-air. And when they *do* get hit, they can move back to position with little to no loss in efficiency.
NLs are not the best at ANYTHING anymore and still has the lowest HP in the game that requires a sh't loads of money to pump it up...They have no useful party skills other than haste which is useless at most boss...They are THE SLOWEST training job out there after 4th job
Tell me why NLs shouldn't be buffed?
I agree that NLs should be buffed in other areas, but their DPS is fine. You're one of the last people that should be peaching about it.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Bribery - 2010-01-05
Night Lords don't need any bossing DPS improvement if these rings are going to be officially released.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Beaner - 2010-01-05
King Wrote:First of all wtp is FS? Facestompers is not a skill...
and what's wrong with asking more DPS to make them the single target DPS king again? Since in most games paper hp = monster DPS
i meant FJ, but its pretty clear what i mean anyways what other skill has a pot delay? so yeah no, no more dps for you or at least no one expects you to get it anyways, dont like it make a corsair.
and wtp is paper hp?
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - King - 2010-01-05
XBish Wrote:i meant FJ, but its pretty clear what i mean anyways what other skill has a pot delay? so yeah no, no more dps for you or at least no one expects you to get it anyways, dont like it make a corsair.
and wtp is paper hp?
who the fk cares about how fast you jump at boss? Race to who jump into HT's ass the fastest?
FYI Paper Hp = low hp that breaks like paper
BTW how to get the rings?
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Beaner - 2010-01-05
King Wrote:who the fk cares about how fast you jump at boss? Race to who jump into HT's ass the fastest?
FYI Paper Hp = low hp that breaks like paper
i am sorry, perhaps you are in the wrong forum, this is about maple not paper.
btw the delay in FJ is about potting when you jump into something, again no one and i mean no one with a brain expects NLs to get a buff on dps.
you do though and thats fine.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Chameleonic - 2010-01-05
So Snipe's cooldown is no shorter at lv 30 than it currently is, only the early levels are less?
Anyone know how much shorter Pierces charge is now? Pierce would be more useful if it were like a reverse IA with no charge whatsoever.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - King - 2010-01-05
XBish Wrote:i am sorry, perhaps you are in the wrong forum, this is about maple not paper.
btw the delay in FJ is about potting when you jump into something, again no one and i mean no one with a brain expects NLs to get a buff on dps.
you do though and thats fine.
I am sorry for your ignorance and want to make urself look like an ass
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Hazzy - 2010-01-05
*jumps into bandwagon*
King Wrote:I am sorry for your ignorance and want to make urself look like an ass
I am sorry for reporting 90% of your post as trolling.
Bolded part is epic pot calling the kettle black moment.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Kawasari Mimoto22 - 2010-01-05
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold the fck up! Who says NL needs to be buffed up any more? We're easily IN one of the top 3 best Bossing-DPS classes in the entire fcking game. If they amp a NL up more than it should be, NLs would be near broken, and then we'll have Narutards running around like back in the Hermit days. Do. Not. Fcking. Want.
If a NL were to be buffed in one way or another, the only way is to either:
a) Increase Shifter % to match that of a Shadower's
b) More usage for Web, change the properties/attributes of this skill completely so that it renders some bosses 'stable', even if it's for half the duration of the actual skill's level
c) Increase Shadow Mesos to hit 4-6 times with SP
Otherwise, DPS, or anything else just makes this class more powerful and over-hyped. I play a Night Lord, I know how hard it is to level in 4th job. But even with that, I'll always get picked over a 140 MM with average gear, some Corsairs NEAR my level range if they have 'average' gear, and most classes. NLs aren't one of the best classes in the game because they can't mob for sh't. But you guys need to take into account that us NLs are easily picked for boss-runs because we're sensitive to weapon-attack stacking. Which means, a cost of an apple in Scania (4m for ex), is 100 attack. Most people will usually make an NL use that before other classes, but depending on the level-range differences.
NLs are fine as it is.
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - Kabanaw - 2010-01-05
I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but this gives I/L AMs 25% more DPS, which brings a luk AM up to about 80k DPS. It's a 22.4% increase for F/P AMs, bringing them up to 84k DPS. I'd say that the rebalancing thus far is a success.