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Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - >Pineapple - 2011-02-21
WillDaSnail Wrote:P.S. I do not know why the Mordekaiser on my team is wearing a Rabadon's Deathcap. Weird. Same goes with the enemy Malphite.
AP/ Hybrid morde> tank morde.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-02-21
>Pineapple' Wrote:AP/ Hybrid morde> tank morde.
Or in case you're unable to not immediately
or 
everything in sight that's out of your familiarity range, or actually do some research and theorycrafting...Mordekaiser has a shield system. That much should be obvious to you. Mordekaiser charges his shield based on how much magic damage he deals, which in turn allows Mordekaiser to absorb damage from his foes. In order to deal more magic damage to charge his shield more, he has a few options: hit more stuff with his abilities, hit more often, and/or hit harder. AP allows Mordekaiser to hit harder, letting him charge his shield at ridiculous rates even if there's only two or three people around. Obviously he'll be destroyed in seconds if he doesn't have any survivability outside of his shield, since the shield has a pretty low maximum capacity. That's where the Armor and MR come in.
Malphite has a somewhat different story in that Armor benefits one of his skills, and his Q allows Malphite to harass pretty well in addition to aiding temporary kiting or running. His ultimate is on a 1:1 AP ratio as well.
Wait, why does that Amumu have Rabadon's? Hmm???
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-21
KajitiSouls Wrote:Wait, why does that Amumu have Rabadon's? Hmm???
Read what I posted regarding my new build a few pages back. I dont want to repeat myself again.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Birdie - 2011-02-21
WillDaSnail Wrote:Read what I posted regarding my new build a few pages back. I dont want to repeat myself again.
he isnt asking why you are playing a tank with ap items. he is pointing out that the malphite is doing the exact same thing as you are
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-21
Birdie Wrote:He is pointing out that the malphite is doing the exact same thing as you are
Care to elaborate?
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Birdie - 2011-02-21
WillDaSnail Wrote:Care to elaborate?
amumu and malphite are both tanks. both of them have moves that scale well with ap. if this isnt clear enough tell me what exactly it is you dont understand and ill try to explain because at this point i dont know how else to put it.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-21
Birdie Wrote:amumu and malphite are both tanks. both of them have moves that scale well with ap. if this isnt clear enough tell me what exactly it is you dont understand and ill try to explain because at this point i dont know how else to put it.
Oh. Never mind.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Birdie - 2011-02-21
WillDaSnail Wrote:Oh. Never mind.
ah well that explains your confusion.
but yeah just about every champion has a move that scales with ap, and surprisingly enough, most champs who are normally not build ap, have moves that scale well with ap. Alistar, master yi, tristana, amumu, sivir, trynd, etc all have a move or two with high scaling. off the top of my head only garen and olaf dont have an ap scaling move.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-21
Anyone up for Bravery matches next week?
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Kurtle - 2011-02-22
WillDaSnail Wrote:Anyone up for Bravery matches next week?
Me.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Birdie - 2011-02-22
id be down
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - >Pineapple - 2011-02-22
KajitiSouls Wrote:Or in case you're unable to not immediately
Mordekaiser has a shield system. That much should be obvious to you. Mordekaiser charges his shield based on how much magic damage he deals, which in turn allows Mordekaiser to absorb damage from his foes. In order to deal more magic damage to charge his shield more, he has a few options: hit more stuff with his abilities, hit more often, and/or hit harder. AP allows Mordekaiser to hit harder, letting him charge his shield at ridiculous rates even if there's only two or three people around. Obviously he'll be destroyed in seconds if he doesn't have any survivability outside of his shield, since the shield has a pretty low maximum capacity. That's where the Armor and MR come in.
Malphite has a somewhat different story in that Armor benefits one of his skills, and his Q allows Malphite to harass pretty well in addition to aiding temporary kiting or running. His ultimate is on a 1:1 AP ratio as well.
Wait, why does that Amumu have Rabadon's? Hmm???
I've never had trouble with survivability to the point that I regret building ap/ hybrid morde instead of tank morde.
Gunblade+ rylais dominates my mid game and late game I have a banshees for defense, 3k hp with items and sometimes thornmail. My 2 hextech gunblades keep my shield up all the time and the lifesteal/spellvamp help even more.
I laugh at most of the fights I'm in because of how ridiculously hard I am to kill.
As for 1v1 situations, this isn't EU and I rarely even have trouble 1v1 because I don't fight 1v1 without creeps to keep my shield up. I usually just kite them with E if they chase me and laugh when they finally decide to run away because they know they will die if they continue to chase.
First real game ever with morde I went 16-3-x on SR, and my brother does the same. He was actually the reason I started playing morde a while back.
Tank morde serves almost no purpose other than being unkillable. His damage is mediocre when built tank and he can't perform the functions of normal tanks.
Tank morde= tank mundo= not better than damage based build.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-22
>Pineapple' Wrote:I've never had trouble with survivability to the point that I regret building ap/ hybrid morde instead of tank morde.
:f6:?
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - >Pineapple - 2011-02-22
WillDaSnail Wrote::f6:?
My epic burst keeps my shield up all the time and spell vamp/ lifesteal keeps my hp up while they try to break through my shield.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-22
>Pineapple' Wrote:My epic burst keeps my shield up all the time and spell vamp/ lifesteal keeps my hp up while they try to break through my shield.
Oh I see. I'd like to see you play a
Is it me or I've been playing against caster-heavy teams nowadays? Its annoying sometimes, but I usually don't have problems once I get around nuking them.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - madanthony - 2011-02-22
Birdie Wrote:hmm didnt notice the lack of banshees. really surprised mana isnt a bigger issue, but you said it works. i do like mallet a lot though. if its working, keep with that build you posted
I wanted to try the new QSS now that it has the same MR as Banshee's. I like it. It's cheaper and having control over my cleanse feels a lot better than having whatever flies at me first being what gets blocked. Saved my ass from a few Annie stuns that game.
Being on a side lane might've helped with mana. I had to lay off phosphorus bomb a little more than usual but missile spam and physical last hits are where it's at when it's uncomfortable to get close to bomb. Once laning broke down it was no longer an issue. I do have some flat MP/5 yellows also.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-02-22
Just so we're clear with QSS vs. BV, assuming reaction time wasn't an issue, QSS can selectively save you from CC and other debuffs in clutch moments (more so than Cleanse can aside from the obvious), but it does NOT save you from stuff like Cho'Gath's Feast. That's what BV is for.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - >Pineapple - 2011-02-22
Yeah, BV isn't just for cc guys.
It also completely ignores the spell that hits you when the shield is up, so things like karthus ult and fling are avoided with BV, but not QSS.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - madanthony - 2011-02-22
I know, I know. Everything is situational. Was facing Nunu, Annie, Tryn, Anivia, and Zilean.
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Malthe - 2011-02-22
I'm up for bravery match too.
Also pure tank morde is just a meatshield with no threat, sure his ulti is scary but pure tank morde just lacks DPS, smart teams will ignore you since you have no CC lol. You can't stop them from getting to your squishies, but a hybrid morde is great indeed.
But tank morde is a pub-stomper