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Ask a Pirate Thread - Dusk - 2009-12-01

His shoes are almost as good as 5 att FS and better with Apples. They cost less than 500m. FS aren't worth it until 6+ att (approx the point where you can't reach with normal shoes).

Ask a Pirate Thread - Bribery - 2009-12-01

Goals Wrote:Andy, I think you should get Facestompers so you could use them for different characters also. *points to Bribes* 5 Atk hammered FS would be pretty cheap at around 1.2b.

That's actually one of the reasons I was considering using FS instead, but I don't think I will actually play Bribes for a long time. It's just a Blessing mule for now.

Dusk Wrote:So I'm looking at the Flaunting thread with all the sairs with 6k+ ranges, and here I am at 160 and I still haven't hit 5k. I can't figure out what to upgrade, though, so I'd like some help.

 My range
 My gear
Pretty much everything is at the point where an upgrade would cost quite a lot. I have about 900m in potentially available funds (if I sold off all the random stuff I have lying around), and a stash of ~55 30% guns on top of that.
Note: I refuse to use items that have been hammered, and I'm willing to be weaker because of it. But 5k range sounds pretty reasonable without hammers o-o

I'm basically looking for the easiest way to get to 5k range. My Blessing of the Fairy comes from a level 80 Blaze Wizard that I don't plan on levelling anymore. If I do try to increase that it'll have to be on my xbow, which is currently level 46. All of my other 80+ characters (85 DK, 80 CB, 97 CB, 123 BM) are on different accounts fml

You could just wait for the Aran Ring. That should push your range into the 49xx mark.

But if you refuse to hammer your stuff, the best thing to upgrade would be your gun. With those 55 Gun Atks, you should be able to get 100+ Atk Unhammered. With Maker and Intermediate BC + Advanced Diamond, it should be pretty easy to get 79 Atk Clean Concertos. I tend to get +2 from the BC more often than not, which is saying a lot since my luck fails Rolleyes. You could get 100 atk out of a 79 Atk with 3 30%'s and 3 60%'s.

You could also try for an Atk Belt. Your current one is ~3 Atk. You could probably get a 5 Atk Belt. Or, if you are willing to use a Hammered one, you could get 5 atk hammered for 500m-ish, which is what I paid for mine.

Ask a Pirate Thread - Dusk - 2009-12-07

So I remember KaidaTan saying something about Octo being like Snipe, and adding a significant amount of bossing DPS. With all other skills maxed, would it be better than Rapid Fire? Octo would definitely be better at Pap since my ship doesn't break at all, but what about Zak? I don't really do any other bossing, so just wondering about that.

Right now I have 1 in each and all other skills maxed except Hypnotize, MW (9) and Ele Boost (working on 16).

Ask a Pirate Thread - KaidaTan - 2009-12-07

Dusk Wrote:So I remember KaidaTan saying something about Octo being like Snipe, and adding a significant amount of bossing DPS. With all other skills maxed, would it be better than Rapid Fire? Octo would definitely be better at Pap since my ship doesn't break at all, but what about Zak? I don't really do any other bossing, so just wondering about that.

Right now I have 1 in each and all other skills maxed except Hypnotize, MW (9) and Ele Boost (working on 16).
More than likely it's Rapid Fire. But lemmie check.

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Oh wow, it's Octo by a hair. Here's a screenshot of the data I used
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The bright yellow box in the middle is your DPS with Burst Fire + Octo. The square we're comparing it to is F9, Rapid Fire's DPS without Octo. As you can see, Octo wins by a little bit. However, it immediately loses if you add in SE, an apple, or both. Even so, Octopus is still more bang for your buck since it's just a 20 point skill and Rapid Fire only ties Octo at level 21. Octo also has the advantage of being generally more efficient than humans (Octo doesn't get knocked back, he just sits there and attacks as soon as he's able) and boosts your Cannon DPS as well. So if you don't mind that he's pretty hard to use during training, then by all means go for Octo first.

By the way, I entered in your equipment from an earlier post in this thread. I saw you were 162, so I made you 170 for the sake of these calculations. I didn't know if you had maxed Flame or Ice, so I just gave you 28 of both.

If there's anything else you wanna know about the numbers I just did, lemmie know.

EDIT: Yeah, definitely Octo. Because even if you have SE, you can just use RF (It's better at level 1 than Burst Fire if you have SE), and you can continue to use RF as you level it up while Octo helps. I really love Octo. He's awesome.

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Ask a Pirate Thread - Dusk - 2009-12-07

Alright, thanks, looks like I'll be maxing Octo first.

I don't use either skill when training, and boosting my Cannon DPS sounds more appealing than boosting what I can do when my ship is broken, which isn't much anyway.

Is Octo worth using while Apple'd and Ship'd?

Edit: With the Zak group I go with I usually have SE and SI, so I still use Burst Fire.

Ask a Pirate Thread - KaidaTan - 2009-12-07

Dusk Wrote:Is Octo worth using while Apple'd and Ship'd?

Edit: With the Zak group I go with I usually have SE and SI, so I still use Burst Fire.
Yes, by at least 15k DPS. Once again, Octo is usually more efficient than a human. Remember not to cast it if you think Zakum is about to guard. You want Octo to at least have 20 seconds to attack for him to be worth casting. When in doubt, casting it is usually better than not casting it.

With SE and SI, Rapid Fire beats Burst Fire at level 3.

Ask a Pirate Thread - Goals - 2009-12-08

What is the exact required amount of INT to double wash a pirate class? Pirates gain 14-16 MP + FLOOR ( Total INT * .075) for every AP applied. Does this mean it requires at a bare minimum 220 INT from gear to double wash, an average of 230 INT from gear to wash most of the time, and 240 INT from gear to garuntee two washes out of MP every AP applied to MP? Sorry if I'm confusing people but I'd like to be confirmed if my math is correct.

Since I've only single washed on my corsair should I 2x wash starting at 150? If it is indeed 240 INT to perfectly 2x wash, I might invest around 22 AP into INT so I can get this total. Would it be wise to double wash every level until I'm 200? With 240 INT I should get enough MP for about 250-275 (estimate) washes. That would be around 5k extra HP to my total. I want to tank stupid bigfoot (I died 20 times trying to kill it for a friend), but atm I will only max out at ~9k hp at 200.

Ask a Pirate Thread - Worthyness - 2009-12-09

I need a little help here:
So I'm eventually going to maker my own equinox, but i still need the dex. At the moment I have 106 dex (54 base)meaning i need 14 more. I need cheap alternatives to achieving this goal, as i only have 30 mil to spend =/

What i can do:
My 4 atk belt has 2 slots left, but since I'm not about to chaos this thing (no monies), I might 100% dex it so +2 dex; aran ring is +3 dex = +5 to the total = 111 dex.

I'm out 9 as of now. I have a 6str/6dex overall i could 100% too, but that only nets me + 4dex more, so 115. I still need +5 more dex.

Current equips with dex on it Big Grin
4/4dex PAC
12dex overall
4 dex shoes (not scrolled)
15 dex zhelm
10 dex earrings
4th job medal
5 dex MoN
That's about it. Again cheap alternatives would be the best since i can't afford much (No NX either). Thanks in advance Big Grin

Ask a Pirate Thread - Takebacker - 2009-12-09

Worthyness Wrote:I need a little help here:
So I'm eventually going to maker my own equinox, but i still need the dex. At the moment I have 106 dex (54 base)meaning i need 14 more. I need cheap alternatives to achieving this goal, as i only have 30 mil to spend =/

What i can do:
My 4 atk belt has 2 slots left, but since I'm not about to chaos this thing (no monies), I might 100% dex it so +2 dex; aran ring is +3 dex = +5 to the total = 111 dex.

I'm out 9 as of now. I have a 6str/6dex overall i could 100% too, but that only nets me + 4dex more, so 115. I still need +5 more dex.

Current equips with dex on it Big Grin
4/4dex PAC
12dex overall
4 dex shoes (not scrolled)
15 dex zhelm
10 dex earrings
4th job medal
5 dex MoN
That's about it. Again cheap alternatives would be the best since i can't afford much (No NX either). Thanks in advance Big Grin

Getting a 3/8 or higher PaC and getting a dex scarlion helm would be the end of your dex worries.

As far as getting it with only 30m...good luck with that.

Ask a Pirate Thread - fiftyschmooo - 2009-12-09

you can probally Maker a new overall with Dex crystal on it and shoes with dex on em for under 30M and 100% the overall and maybe see where that lands you ...

Ask a Pirate Thread - KaidaTan - 2009-12-09

Worthyness Wrote:stuff
Whatever you end up doing, just don't scroll that belt for dex. You're going to regret it later when you want to chaos it or something (perhaps when pyramid PQ comes out) and you can because you used up all the slots because you needed a few dex a while ago.

Ask a Pirate Thread - Takebacker - 2009-12-09

Not to mention shoes for attack -> they might make belt for attack in the future.

Ask a Pirate Thread - Dusk - 2009-12-09

Takebacker Wrote:Not to mention shoes for attack -> they might make belt for attack in the future.

Well, who saw that one coming? By that logic you might as well leave all your equips clean because they'll come out with better stuff for them eventually.

Ask a Pirate Thread - KaidaTan - 2009-12-09

Dusk Wrote:Well, who saw that one coming? By that logic you might as well leave all your equips clean because they'll come out with better stuff for them eventually.
That's why I scroll my stuff for dex and not str. And unlike the things you just mentioned, attack shoes exist now and it would be prudent to plan for them.

Ask a Pirate Thread - Takebacker - 2009-12-09

Dusk Wrote:Well, who saw that one coming? By that logic you might as well leave all your equips clean because they'll come out with better stuff for them eventually.

Which is why i haven't upgraded my earrings/shoes/cape in over half a year.

Ask a Pirate Thread - Worthyness - 2009-12-09

lol then I'll need a way to get + 11 dex with the overall for under 30 mil ><

Ask a Pirate Thread - 0mgP1r4tes - 2009-12-09

You could always just spend some time and make some more money...

Ask a Pirate Thread - Sleepy - 2009-12-10

What do i get after maxing energy charge and blast? Stun mastery?

Ask a Pirate Thread - Worthyness - 2009-12-10

you can put points into random things like 1 transform/1 shockwave/ 2 drain. Otherwise Stun mastery is probably the way to do.

Ask a Pirate Thread - Manu - 2009-12-10

You posted about typhoons on other thread, since you might be planning to train there, I'd go with energy drain before stun mastery.