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Ask a Pirate Thread - Dusk - 2009-09-24

Reflexx Wrote:flame thrower or gaviota? Or does it really not matter... I already have 19 points into gaviota so im just going to max it, im just asking if any 4th job pirates actually use flame thrower just so i know thats it not a big deal. And please no "I use flame throwers sometimes when i r fighting fire weak mobs" I'm asking if you use Flame at all in your average grind.

I use it at Skeles. Doesn't really matter if a mob is fire weak or not. It's mostly used as a finisher because it doesn't affect your mobility like Torpedo and it's extremely fast. Ice Splitter cannot be considered a spammable skill without Flamethrower, and vice versa. You can easily do without Flamethrower, though. Just saying - Gaviota is completely useless. If you do go FT/Ice, you can just get 26 of each.


Ask a Pirate Thread - Reflexx - 2009-09-24

Thing is torpedo is so much better of a mob skill than flamethrower and even if you say you use flame while ship is broken, its kind of a lulz skill that require blaze capsules. Anyway waiting on a corsair to comment. Also how much homing do i need to get advanced homing in 4th job?


Ask a Pirate Thread - Bountyan - 2009-09-24

Reflexx Wrote:Also how much homing do i need to get advanced homing in 4th job?
Level 30, IIRC*


Ask a Pirate Thread - Dusk - 2009-09-24

Max

damn, ninja'd


Ask a Pirate Thread - Takebacker - 2009-09-24

Reflexx Wrote:Anyway waiting on a corsair to comment.

Dusk IS a corsair...


Ask a Pirate Thread - Reflexx - 2009-09-24

Yeah i know, he posted while i was writing my post, lol. Also I need max homing in 3rd job? it says max level is 30.


Ask a Pirate Thread - Bountyan - 2009-09-24

Dusk Wrote:Max

damn, ninja'd

Wait, I said max then I looked again on Maplewiki and said the max is lv30, but I thought it was 20. o_o; So which one is it?

EDIT: Never mind, I think you need max (30) for homing in 4th, so I was right before I edited my post, I looked at some Outlaw builds.


Ask a Pirate Thread - Takebacker - 2009-09-24

It maxes at 30.

Lrn2fiel'sskilltableslol.


Ask a Pirate Thread - Reflexx - 2009-09-24

Also just a small question on the side, the 3 points i get when leveling to 120, will have to be used to advance to corsair right? and once i advanced i will earn another 3 points to use right?

So will this be a 3rd job skill that will work for me in 4th job

20 burst fire
30 octo
19 gaviota
26 Ice
26 Fire
30 Homing

is that even the correct amount of points possible to get during 3rd job? idk lol i'm noob at this Stunned


Ask a Pirate Thread - Takebacker - 2009-09-24

Reflexx Wrote:Also just a small question on the side, the 3 points i get when leveling to 120, will have to be used to advance to corsair right? and once i advanced i will earn another 3 points to use right?

Yes.

Reflexx Wrote:So will this be a 3rd job skill that will work for me in 4th job

20 burst fire
30 octo
19 gaviota
26 Ice
26 Fire
30 Homing

Yes.

Reflexx Wrote:is that even the correct amount of points possible to get during 3rd job?

Yes.

Reflexx Wrote:idk lol i'm noob at this Stunned

Yes.


Ask a Pirate Thread - Bountyan - 2009-09-24

Reflexx Wrote:Also just a small question on the side, the 3 points i get when leveling to 120, will have to be used to advance to corsair right? and once i advanced i will earn another 3 points to use right?

You get 3 points right when you level up to 120, you use them on 3rd job skills, and you get another 3 points after you 4th job advance.


Ask a Pirate Thread - Reflexx - 2009-09-24

Whew taht clears up alot of things, now i must get to 120 ^^ ty everyone


Ask a Pirate Thread - fiftyschmooo - 2009-09-24

Reflexx Wrote:Whew taht clears up alot of things, now i must get to 120 ^^ ty everyone

Good luck Big Grin

Personally I never use Flamethrower in Skeles @ all (I take that back, I do randomly Flame my Bishops Skeles to give him the "wtp my skeles are on fire" kinda mindset) and thats where your going to be training all the time. Unless of corse you like slower, Solo exp @ ToT. Then you COULD go to the ice maps cause probally eairly 13X-14X-15X would be 2hko for you maybe and flamethrower migth be somewhatuseful. Thats of corse when ship breaks/before you have leveled Torpedo (since you would max cannon first) but your points are much better if placed into Ice, cause your birdy of doom prety much sucks some serious balls and Flamethrower only warms slightly.

The only REAL useful part of FlameThrower is that When in Zakum you can use Flamethrower on The Opachu's cause theyre weak to fire and all the other summons are neutral to fire sept the Pachu's which are strong to fire. So it is nice to plough some 40K's on those with fire when ships dead and u can't Torpedo otherwise, it should be renamed to a LamethrowerRedface


Ask a Pirate Thread - KaidaTan - 2009-09-24

fiftyschmooo Wrote:The only REAL useful part of FlameThrower is that When in Zakum you can use Flamethrower on The Opachu's cause theyre weak to fire and all the other summons are neutral to fire sept the Pachu's which are strong to fire. So it is nice to plough some 40K's on those with fire when ships dead and u can't Torpedo otherwise, it should be renamed to a LamethrowerRedface
At least it's not as bad as Lameferno. Unlike Lameferno, there's actually a few decent reasons to put points into Lamethrower.


Ask a Pirate Thread - Stereo - 2009-09-24

oh come on, Inferno looks awesome. And it's almost as strong as Arrow Bomb...


Ask a Pirate Thread - KaidaTan - 2009-09-24

Stereo Wrote:And it's almost as strong as Arrow Bomb...
lol. I'll take my passive Haste, thanks.


Ask a Pirate Thread - Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-09-24

@FT debate:

For skeles, I only used it when my ship was broken and there was a mob. I have a "ice->fire->ice" macro and use it when there's a few skeles in my way. Otherwise I just use ice -> RF

@Zak + FT: I haven't gotten eboost past 1 (Debating if I should sacrifice my 10 lolmw30 points) but I only do those mobs when zak defs up. In addition, I only use air strike cause it 1hkos them. Most of the runs I go to though have a bishop genesising mobs


Ask a Pirate Thread - fiftyschmooo - 2009-09-24

Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:@FT debate:

For skeles, I only used it when my ship was broken and there was a mob. I have a "ice->fire->ice" macro and use it when there's a few skeles in my way. Otherwise I just use ice -> RF

@Zak + FT: I haven't gotten eboost past 1 (Debating if I should sacrifice my 10 lolmw30 points) but I only do those mobs when zak defs up. In addition, I only use air strike cause it 1hkos them. Most of the runs I go to though have a bishop genesising mobs

yay Lag Big Grin, In reality don't level Eleboost just to kill Zak mobs>.> do it to help out training(yes it helps). There is also like no reason to level Eleboost before anything else (cannon, ship, torpedo, rapid fire, bullseye[not in any paticular order]) this brings you to like 160 which is higher than a good bunch of corsairs anyways. After this is gets a little blur'd as to what to lvl if you should do Eleboost or Air strike or Octo or Hypn(lol)tize. The most useful to you migth not be most useful to other people, it depends what you do in this game after that point. Do you want to boss a lot? then you should suggest going octo>airstrike>boost>hypno if you train like a crazy man(or that guy who died playing Halo for leik a week straight) then you would be better off going eleboost/Airstrike>octo>hypno and if you want to waste time and do nothing at all you could think of hypno>all F3


Ask a Pirate Thread - Dusk - 2009-09-24

I'm working on 9 MW atm but I'm going to do Boost shortly after that. Flamethrower isn't bad if you use it as a finisher. It's way faster than Torpedo and it doesn't lock up your Ice Splitter. Putting it on a macro with Ice is retarded, though, because Flamethrower's only advantage over Torpedo is the mobility it gives you.

Air Strike is a very useful skill. It's better than Rapid Fire will ever be for training, and definitely better than Ele Boost/Octo/Hypnotize for anything.

Hypno is completely useless. I cannot begin to fathom any situation where you would want to leave a monster alive, doing 3-4k damage, instead of killing it off for exp. Skeles is already easy enough to where I can practically kill the entire bottom spawn.


Ask a Pirate Thread - USMC - 2009-09-24

What except Manon drops dragon strike 30? Got 7 junk books from Manon but no DS30.

Thanks.