Russt Wrote:But there are compromises to be made.

I'm going to improvise on fighting a Windraider boss by itself, just as an example...

Mobile? Stationary? KBable? Mobile bosses stop moving to attack. If our Windraider boss attacks often, it won't be that difficult for melee classes to keep up with. As for pinnability, it's completely unnecessary and makes for dull boss fights. How does a ranger mob Himes? He attacks until they come within range and begin their attack, then steps back and attacks again. This kind of strategy lends itself to being cornered easily, but that's where warps come in.

High damage vs low damage? What about a distance-scaled damage system? If you're closer, you get hit for more, and if you're farther, you get hit for less. That would probably be difficult to implement, but the same effect could be achieved by giving it a few close range high damaging attacks, similar to current Windraiders', as well as long range lower damaging attacks like an Arrow Rain style thing. And a quick wind-themed projectile attack would fit in well too. One thing about projectiles - they're nearly impossible to avoid when you're up close, but when farther away, they're much easier to handle. This means they can be made to deal fatal damage to ranged classes, without endangering their lives too much.

The only thing left is avoid, which is a trivial matter.


If you don't notice, that's exactly what a high damage avoidable attack is.

Icedfire Wrote:not the -18% that IA gets

IsaacGS Wrote:oh, and off the topic of bosses, Maker more than likely will NOT be out with Magatia. KMS had Magatia for about 8 months before they got Maker, don't count on it so soon for us.

IsaacGS Wrote:You clearly didn't realize that I said that specifically as a retaliatory comment against the mindset that "MAKE IT DO A LOT OF DAMAGE SO ARCHERS AND SINS CAN'T COME". I don't really want it to be impossible for warriors, but if they're gonna be running around saying pomegranate like that, then I'm gonna say things like this.


oh, and off the topic of bosses, Maker more than likely will NOT be out with Magatia. KMS had Magatia for about 8 months before they got Maker, don't count on it so soon for us.

Combattente Wrote:So yeah, there's still an hope. If the NEXON's worker didn't mean Maker skill, what did he mean with "new crafting recipes"? :f6:

Quote:-Crimsonwood keep 2 is scheduled for first quarter of 2009

-new crafting recipes (anybody thinking maker skill?)

Avenge Wrote:Probably making the rest of the items (swords, axes, knuckles, guns) in CWK.

Combattente Wrote:Oh.. alright. But we can still hope for the Maker skill, can we?

Maybe not.. :f6:

Russt Wrote:10% Alex. Not 18%. 10%.

Or if you're talking pre-v.56, then it'd be 20%.

Acim Wrote:White duck? :O Need... picture... this may replace my skunk/Kino obsession if it isn't an iTCG pet.

lord farkuad Wrote:For magatia, what are the benefits of each faction?

Combattente Wrote:That's true, but remember we are the first version that got Leafre part 1 + Leafre part 2 + 4th Job + Mounts and everything else in one patch.. at least I think we are.

So yeah, there's still an hope. If the NEXON's worker didn't mean Maker skill, what did he mean with "new crafting recipes"? :f6:

Acim Wrote:White duck? :O Need... picture... this may replace my skunk/Kino obsession if it isn't an iTCG pet.

IsaacGS Wrote:You already have Horntail, Tonosama, Pink Bean... OH WAIT THOSE ARE ALL THE ACTUALLY HARD BOSSES.

Major bosses like this one will be should be accessible to all classes. It's not fair that a level 80 warrior can go to Horntail and survive with ease when an archer has to wait until 160 to even stand a chance at surviving, now is it?

I hope it has 95 avoid to make it completely inaccessible to warriors. >_>

MasPan Wrote:Being able to survive a hit =/= being able to effectively / efficiently fight. Archers can solo pap in about 15 minutes at a respectable level, crow in 25-30, etc - an equivalent warrior will generally take twice as long. As PA DrK, like me, 4x as long at the least.
Beyond that, it is a simple matter to add HP - simply add some instead of Dex when you level, or even HP wash (note that it is impossible to ACC wash). Adding Dex for acc is an option as well, but as warriors are already at a damage disadvantage, this only further increases the problem of being slow/inefficient at bosses.

Tamekii Wrote:This is how the pet is supposed to looks like:



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