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Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Mazz - 2012-02-13
Raul Wrote:PQ's as well.
But yeah, the "great" training areas in GMS are long gone for KMS, making training a lot harder. Aswan just recently got a nerf, it was very good before it though.
Just out of curiosity, how good is Aswan after they changed it? EXP/time wise.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Raul - 2012-02-13
Mazz Wrote:Just out of curiosity, how good is Aswan after they changed it? EXP/time wise.
I haven't tried much.
What they essentially did is ruined hell mode for party attack/conquer mode. The old strategy was to just mob on the bottom floor and ignore the top platform, but now you lose if a certain amount of mobs get to the "random disappear with the power of holiness" place.
For a hard mode solo (not finishing, just grinding for 10 minutes), on a 147 Shadower with a 14.5k range buffed, no exp mods or damage buffs, I just got about 5%, maybe a bit less. The towers hit a lot, base their hits off your HP, ignore all defense and defense modifiers, and ignore iframes. Hell of a potburn unless you have Vampire or another drain skill.
Yeah, so about 30%/hour with no exp modifiers or buffs with solo grind, dunno for party, haven't tried for a long while. Doubt it's even that good pre-16x.
Apparently, it's the best source of exp after 16x though.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - FabledGumbo - 2012-02-13
Zelkova Wrote:Seriously. Your post makes my eyes jump around and search for what you are trying to say.
My apologies, I started rambling so that it wouldn't seem like I was flaming. tl;dr is that there's virtually no reason for legit players to concern themselves with such scandals and the subpoint that you'll almost definitely enjoy the game more if you take a step back from it.
The 27 attack VSS thing was just my way of calling people hypocrites.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Foxino - 2012-02-13
FabledGumbo Wrote:My apologies, I started rambling so that it wouldn't seem like I was flaming. tl;dr is that there's virtually no reason for legit players to concern themselves with such scandals and the subpoint that you'll almost definitely enjoy the game more if you take a step back from it.
The 27 attack VSS thing was just my way of calling people hypocrites.
It's hard to enjoy the game with this going on. Even if one was to step away from those items they will still effect everyone unless you play the game solo. And well.. If everything is solo.. Why are you playing an MMO?
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - FabledGumbo - 2012-02-13
Durex Wrote:Even if one was to step away from those items they will still effect everyone unless you play the game solo.
Howso? I don't see how players using items better than intended affects your experience any, unless you're too much of an elitist to affiliate with such people. Honestly, the only difference between a $7 stonetooth and $700 worth of cubed equipment is that one of them is considered working as intended at Nexon headquarters.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - MuscleWizard - 2012-02-13
updoot from the nexon forums
me: "Hey Tyler, would it be possible for someone to just go into the dialogue for chief tatamo and comment out the lines that allow players to sell scrolls back?
fairly certain that since NPC dialogues aren't client side, you guys might be able to simply do a hotfix on at least that portion while the game is still live. unless you already did something like that. "
dev: "Yes, this is possible and will likely be done with a mini patch.
Nexon can merely remove a couple lines of scripting (Java from the NPC) that accepts the scrolls rendering them useless for any players who currently have them.
This would be hugely effective as players who have 'some' legitly would not be effective by going down the ban route, and players who took advantage of buying the scrolls will have a loss.
While I think that the players who blatantly duplicated them (visible from MTS) should be banned, that above route would be the best option. "
http://maplestory.nexon.net/Community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F212148-Inform-Us-Please%2Fpage113%26nxid%3D6
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Heidi - 2012-02-13
MuscleWizard Wrote:updoot from the nexon forums
me: "Hey Tyler, would it be possible for someone to just go into the dialogue for chief tatamo and comment out the lines that allow players to sell scrolls back?
fairly certain that since NPC dialogues aren't client side, you guys might be able to simply do a hotfix on at least that portion while the game is still live. unless you already did something like that. "
dev: "Yes, this is possible and will likely be done with a mini patch.
Nexon can merely remove a couple lines of scripting (Java from the NPC) that accepts the scrolls rendering them useless for any players who currently have them.
This would be hugely effective as players who have 'some' legitly would not be effective by going down the ban route, and players who took advantage of buying the scrolls will have a loss.
While I think that the players who blatantly duplicated them (visible from MTS) should be banned, that above route would be the best option. "
http://maplestory.nexon.net/Community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F212148-Inform-Us-Please%2Fpage113%26nxid%3D6
Why are they saying that they're gonna do this without doing it immediately??? Great idea, give these fuckwits a chance to sell back the scrolls and flood the economy with the mesos!
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - DarkForgeJ - 2012-02-13
FabledGumbo Wrote:Howso? I don't see how players using items better than intended affects your experience any, unless you're too much of an elitist to affiliate with such people. Honestly, the only difference between a $7 stonetooth and $700 worth of cubed equipment is that one of them is considered working as intended at Nexon headquarters.
Actually, this equips makes the game unbalanced for every person that wants to play legitly, you are never going to reach that level whiout buying one of that hacked weapons, they shouldn't exist in first place...
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Locked - 2012-02-13
No Nexon tag?
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Viaje - 2012-02-13
MuscleWizard Wrote:updoot from the nexon forumsTyler is not at all employed or affiliated with Nexon.
me: "Hey Tyler, would it be possible for someone to just go into the dialogue for chief tatamo and comment out the lines that allow players to sell scrolls back? (I stopped reading)
People really need to stop feeding that attention whore.
Heidi Wrote:Why are they saying that they're gonna do this without doing it immediately??? Great idea, give these pineapplewits a chance to sell back the scrolls and flood the economy with the mesos!If by 'they' you mean 'Nexon', I don't believe Nexon has said anything.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - MuscleWizard - 2012-02-13
Locked Wrote:No Nexon tag?
No nexon tag. But TyIer is a member of their maple team.
At least that's what I and a lot of people who browse the nexon forums assume. If he wasn't affiliated, they would have done something about him, eg: impersonating a GM.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Justin - 2012-02-13
Despite TyIer himself saying he's not in any way,shape,or form employed by Nexon?
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Locked - 2012-02-13
I'm not buying it.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - FabledGumbo - 2012-02-13
DarkForgeJ Wrote:Actually, this equips makes the game unbalanced for every person that wants to play legitly, you are never going to reach that level whiout buying one of that hacked weapons, they shouldn't exist in first place...
That's partially true, but you certainly don't need a 600 attack weapon to hit damage cap. More importantly, it's not like these players using hacked weapons are causing you to do less damage. If you're really so concerned about your own damage that you're insecure about being beaten by people toting around old dupes, you might as well pick one up for yourself while they're cheap.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Foxino - 2012-02-13
FabledGumbo Wrote:Howso? I don't see how players using items better than intended affects your experience any, unless you're too much of an elitist to affiliate with such people. Honestly, the only difference between a $7 stonetooth and $700 worth of cubed equipment is that one of them is considered working as intended at Nexon headquarters.
In fact quite the opposite.
"Why do you need a squad to kill this boss when you have a 500atk more than everyone."
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - MuscleWizard - 2012-02-13
Justin Wrote:Despite TyIer himself saying he's not in any way,shape,or form employed by Nexon?
When was this? Because obviously I missed it.
Care to link me to this admission? Because if what you're saying is true, then I feel like a huge idiot. o no
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Viaje - 2012-02-13
MuscleWizard Wrote:No nexon tag. But TyIer is a member of their maple team.You know what they say happens when you assume...
At least that's what I and a lot of people who browse the nexon forums assume. If he wasn't affiliated, they would have done something about him, eg: impersonating a GM.
...you look like a fucking tool for spreading blatant lies.
He's not a member of the Maple Team.
He's said this himself.
How his obvious attempts to otherwise mimic a Nexon employee have not gotten him banned is beyond me.
His avatar is clearly crossing a line.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - MuscleWizard - 2012-02-13
Viaje Wrote:You know what they say happens when you assume...No need to snap at me, jesus christ bro.
...you look like a fucking tool for spreading blatant lies.
He's not a member of the Maple Team.
He's said this himself.
How his obvious attempts to otherwise mimic a Nexon employee have not gotten him banned is beyond me.
His avatar is clearly crossing a line.
I'm sorry I fell for someone trolling, alright?
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Raul - 2012-02-13
Viaje Wrote:You know what they say happens when you assume...
...you look like a fucking tool for spreading blatant lies.
He's not a member of the Maple Team.
He's said this himself.
How his obvious attempts to otherwise mimic a Nexon employee have not gotten him banned is beyond me.
His avatar is clearly crossing a line.
I thought it made an Ass out of U and Me, but whatever.
He's a Nexon Volunteer, I thought.
I can't actually remember seeing any official acknowledgement, though.
Why the Secret Spell Scroll system would have never worked. - Locked - 2012-02-13
MuscleWizard Wrote:No need to snap at me, jesus christ bro.
I'm sorry I fell for someone trolling, alright?
It's okay. It doesn't even really matter.